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Old Sep 18, 2007 | 10:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Dullydiesel
What is the hang up with straight water???? Lets face it we have a lot of money in our trucks.........just wondering.........
I'll give you my take on it, keep in mind it's just my opinion and isn't worth much. First, lets start with the different associations in just Missouri-
  • MHTTPA
  • MMTTPA
  • NWMTPA
  • Spring River
  • Brush Pulls Added to ECMPA, CMPA, MSTPA, etc.
  • Your Local County Fair Pull with No Association

Each of these associations have their own take on a Street Diesel truck class and each have their own rules and just different enough that it makes building a truck to fit in all of them difficult. That said, we like to travel. Let me explain... us diesel truck guys are a strange breed (and yes, I mean that too). We like to go to all sorts of different pulls and to get out, other classes (tractors, modifieds, gas trucks) don't seem to do that as much as we do. At least I haven't seen it. Most pick an association and stick with it. Not us! We go all over the place, if there's a hook, we're there.

Right or wrong we do have a national set of rules to choose from; DHRA. They are universally accepted and to date, I have yet to see a single pull where a DHRA legal truck couldn't hook without issue. But, not all of us use them, so what happens? You end up building what I call the "compromise truck". You build a brush pull truck with removable parts. So, we show up at a pull with a set of rules and no tech. We're smart guys right? We watch the first guy go across the scales, check weight, check hitch and roll on through without a hood raise. Now if a hood does go up what happens? It looks like Moses leading the Gentiles out of Egypt. Wrenches are flying, people unhooking stuff...

So what's the hang up on water you ask? Here's my take. Water in itself is not a power adder. BUT.... water does drop your EGTs which allows you to what? Add more fuel. So does it directly contribute to giving an advantage? No. But indirectly, yes. I understand the argument for needing it to help a motor live, but that motor living is also assuming you don't add more fuel to put you right back where you started to begin with, right?

Just my opinion, not worth much more than the monitor you're reading this on...
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Old Sep 18, 2007 | 10:49 PM
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most tuff dhra trucks have a lot of money in them rules say no water rules are rules
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Old Sep 18, 2007 | 11:17 PM
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now i have to disagree with your satburn, we're not a strange breed. i don't know where you'd get such a thing.
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Old Sep 18, 2007 | 11:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Poster Child for Strange Breed
now i have to disagree with your satburn, we're not a strange breed. i don't know where you'd get such a thing.
Whatever helps you sleep at night Pack...
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Old Sep 19, 2007 | 01:58 AM
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Unfortunately, we had to make a decision. Due to the fact there are so many people running so many different rules we had to make a choice. We wanted to include as many trucks as possible to make this a good pull. As I said in the other post, alot of trucks seem to be coming. If there are enough outstandin trucks there, who knows what could happen, that would be a question to ask Corey. Either way, we felt by allowing water that to many people would go else where considering it might be seen as an unfair advantage and we jsut wanted to have people be there and have a good time.

I must admit that you guys are very tight nit. Back where I am from, people would not be as open to talk about this stuff such as rules and what might or might not work. I definately think I moved to the right area for this stuff.
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Old Sep 19, 2007 | 01:59 AM
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Originally Posted by satburn
Whatever helps you sleep at night Pack...
I have a feeling others were targetted in that statment.....
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Old Sep 19, 2007 | 08:09 AM
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Only blood suckers stay up all night or that maybe deisel fume suckers. Just can't get enough can you. Of course I turn in to one on ocasion, but I don't live on it yet...
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Old Sep 19, 2007 | 09:50 AM
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No, I just don't sleep. it simple really, I own alo fo stock in pepsi. I went to sleep 2 hrs ago and I'm already up.
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Old Sep 19, 2007 | 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by satburn
I'll give you my take on it, keep in mind it's just my opinion and isn't worth much. First, lets start with the different associations in just Missouri-
  • MHTTPA
  • MMTTPA
  • NWMTPA
  • Spring River
  • Brush Pulls Added to ECMPA, CMPA, MSTPA, etc.
  • Your Local County Fair Pull with No Association

Each of these associations have their own take on a Street Diesel truck class and each have their own rules and just different enough that it makes building a truck to fit in all of them difficult. That said, we like to travel. Let me explain... us diesel truck guys are a strange breed (and yes, I mean that too). We like to go to all sorts of different pulls and to get out, other classes (tractors, modifieds, gas trucks) don't seem to do that as much as we do. At least I haven't seen it. Most pick an association and stick with it. Not us! We go all over the place, if there's a hook, we're there.

Right or wrong we do have a national set of rules to choose from; DHRA. They are universally accepted and to date, I have yet to see a single pull where a DHRA legal truck couldn't hook without issue. But, not all of us use them, so what happens? You end up building what I call the "compromise truck". You build a brush pull truck with removable parts. So, we show up at a pull with a set of rules and no tech. We're smart guys right? We watch the first guy go across the scales, check weight, check hitch and roll on through without a hood raise. Now if a hood does go up what happens? It looks like Moses leading the Gentiles out of Egypt. Wrenches are flying, people unhooking stuff...

So what's the hang up on water you ask? Here's my take. Water in itself is not a power adder. BUT.... water does drop your EGTs which allows you to what? Add more fuel. So does it directly contribute to giving an advantage? No. But indirectly, yes. I understand the argument for needing it to help a motor live, but that motor living is also assuming you don't add more fuel to put you right back where you started to begin with, right?

Just my opinion, not worth much more than the monitor you're reading this on...
Satburn well said you hit the nail on the head.
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Old Sep 20, 2007 | 03:55 PM
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bump.... I finally understand it!
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Old Sep 20, 2007 | 09:14 PM
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it does make me sleep better at night, that or it's all the fumes i huff all day, or the beer. don't know which it is. but i do enjoy the finer things in life, like the smell of burning rubber, the smell of diesel exhaust, hate the smell of gasoline though, like the smell of acetyline, oh and nitro methane, race fuel, and methanol........ sweeeeeeeeet jesus that just drives me wild.
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Old Sep 23, 2007 | 10:18 PM
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Well Done

To Cory and every one involved great job and great show this week.end Professionally run from a spectator stand point. Hope it becomes an anual event!!!
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Old Sep 24, 2007 | 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by dieselfreak21
To Cory and every one involved great job and great show this week.end Professionally run from a spectator stand point. Hope it becomes an anual event!!!
Well thank you freak and it will that sat nite was the cake topper. and not only that O'reilly's store manager just stopped by my house and said he would send this video in to there CEO and git the whole thing sponsored next year ;-) very happy bout that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old Sep 24, 2007 | 09:27 PM
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Originally Posted by coreydr2003
Well thank you freak and it will that sat nite was the cake topper. and not only that O'reilly's store manager just stopped by my house and said he would send this video in to there CEO and git the whole thing sponsored next year ;-) very happy bout that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Does that include free fire rings and head gaskets for pullers?
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Old Sep 24, 2007 | 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted by satburn
Does that include free fire rings and head gaskets for pullers?
Why not just ask for the whole truck being sponsored, alot less finacial strain on ya then!
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