IT helps if your friend is the offical tech,but thats not to be seen LOL. If the truck CHEVY,DODGE,FORD came stock with the 2.5 and the others a 2.0 or 1.5 then they should beable to run it,and to bad for the others.if you dont like it go buy that truck with the 2.5 to use.my .02

 

Im not saying that the LLY and LBZ duramaxes shouldnt be allowed to run their stock chargers. Which BTW have 2.59 inducers (similar to the sled puller 66). All im saying is, i think the Cummins' should be allowed to run a charger that is close to the same size so they can level out the playing field a little bit.

 

Then you should not be able to run in the stock class.What does the ford have? its not about who has a bigger motor,or how fast you can drag the slead,but how far you drag it. its all about driving style,knowing when to stand on it or go easy.some tracks or high HP,some low HP. if you dont have differnt tires for differnt tracks,you have to adjust your driving style. some people are just better at it then others.

 

give me $50,000 and i will go buy a dmax then give me another $10,000 for tranny and EFIlive. or i could go buy a $10,000 dodge, put $10,000 into it and be able to be compete

 

First you say its all about driving then in the same paragraph say you should have different sets of tires? Which is it?

Driving style only goes so far. Many of us are pretty good sled drivers but turbo size is turbo size. As the saying goes "there is no replacement for displacement".

I agree WS should even out the turbo size advantages. Go with an inducer size to even the game.

 

read it again"' i said if you dont have differnt tires.and even if you do? still adjust the way you drive it for each track.I dont pull anymore to many guys cry when thay get beat.iam not putten anybody down.just sayen if you run the stock class use stock parts and find more hp by tuning, by using a programer that the other guys cant see.work in the gray area of the rules.if you are aloud to run bigger turbo cause chevy and ford stocks are bigger? then your not stock. by your sig it looks like you pull? so you know what i mean by gray area. my buddy pull his 06 d max stock class,keeps a programer in cab after he hooksup to sled plugs it in and turns up everything. after pull we tow him to trailer turn it back to stock after event is over. not cheating useing gray area.all the people we pull with in are club do.thay just dont tell the guys off the street.

 

Thats ridiculous . So youre saying that he pulls onto the track, hooks to the sled, and then they just let him sit there for a few minutes while he programs his truck???

 

So it is OK to run a programmer, but if you install a larger turbo, it is no longer stock. Every truck is designed differently and responds differently to mods. The Duramax has a very good turbo stock and has room to grow with more mods. The Cummins turbo is a choke point when you reach a point and it needs to be replaced.

Stock is the way they roll off the showroom floor.

 

Exactly. Theres no such thing as a truely STOCK class. The name of the class is "Work Stock". There are plenty of trucks that would pull in that class that are still everyday drivers/workers (mine included).

 

Work Stock is a catchy name, but none these trucks at the top of the class are "work stock". If you can not hook to a trailer and take off across the country exactly the way you drag a sled, it is not a work truck, but a competition vehicle. Rules are made to keep the playing field level and allow everyone a chance to win. Chevys need front axle work, Dodges need a turbo. They all need clutches, or transmission work to run at the top.

I think we all agree this class is made of trucks that are worked during the week and turned up to drag an occasional sled.

 

Yes he does.you go when your ready.iam not saing take your time,do what you have to fast. I do think your right that work stock should be a working truck,but as long as there is an gray area in the rules people will use it. my truck was a country modfied,more than it should have.and i know i couldnt keep up with the semi pro so i got out of pulling. money spent just got to high. I love dodge will always have one, i just dont like it when people cry that this or that stocker is better tham mine cause the OEM put a better part on. all trucks have good and bad things about them.not tring to **** you guys off.

 

Oh really! The truck that finished second in the points towed a Street Diesel truck to all the pulls. I drove my truck to every pull big tune and all. Heck I towed several broken pulling trucks back this season. I hauled my tractor and my buddies pulling tractor around. All on the big tune. My wife drove it to New York to pick a horse for her parents. Same big tune. Yes I have a big Dual Disk. It is very streetable. Yes you have to been careful. It can get a way from you. But to say the top trucks cant just back up to a trailer and go is not true. Mine can , did, and will.
I drove my truck to Scheid's 480 miles hooked twice and drove back home. What more can you ask for?

 

The Work Stock class was intended to include vehicles from the 'stock of working trucks'. I derived the name from the concepts behind 'live stock' and 'farm stock'. The class is intended for folks who have either bone-stock trucks or slightly modified vehicles, yet still generally appear to be 'stock'. There are plenty of diesel trucks on the road that have been turned up a little to make them better handle a general workload, but are still nowhere near 'street performance'.

The class was intended to be a safe place for casual pullers and newbies to have fun without worrying about breakage or 'looking bad'. Consider what was happening when S/D pullers were lumped together with the Modifieds (like Scheid, Mitchell and Haisley). The S/D guys looked like wannabes without ever having a chance of winning, while the modified drivers looked like superheroes every time.

'Work Stock' was never intended to mean 'as assembled by and shipped from the factory'.

 

You do not understand. You DO NOT run the truck at that level constantly while working it. Towing a trailer with a light foot is not running it to the potential that it is running while in competition. Believe me I know, I did not put 325,000 on my truck by hauling it on a trailer. It is a work truck first, but also a fun truck to play in. I am not going to try to fool anyone into believing I tow at 640 horsepower though.

Actually, if you want look at it as the ability to tow a trailer (do work), 99+ percent of the street stock class should be in the work class.

 

Ah I see! I can not run it at a 4000 rpm all the time got to shift sooner or later. But I do run it on the same programing. No switches , no *****, just a big mean tune. There are very streetable trucks in Street diesel too. Kevin Barr, Matt Cooper, Gary Six, Scott Amos, Michael Tomac, And Tony Burkhardt all have very streetable trucks that can tow and pull very well. And I am sure there are more. I do not know all their names. It just gets me wound up when some says but you cant run it like that on the street! Well time to go bring home my new Baby son home from the Hospital. Yes it is still on the big tune.