He said that he is worried that other people will see were he made power and will be able to tune their efi equipped Dmax's to make the power in the same rpm range [eyecrazy]

There were some crazy # being "produced" that day from some mild and not so mild trucks.

He will dyno the truck on Dunbar's Dyno in June in MI at Merchant automotive open house(dmax specialist)so we will see what happens then,I would like to see some e/t runs out of it.

I can't believe the Wasp nest this has created. My biz partner is over at the Dieselplace and every thread started about the truck gets locked down. [eyecrazy] Seems like everyone who has put there hand on the truck is wanting to have their 15 minutes of fame.. Nutz..[dummy]

How crazy is that, the Chevy site of all has to lock down threads on it. Meanwhile at DTR... [whistle]

Now, just as I say that, I hear the locks clickin... Keep it technical guys. [nonono]


Good point on the dyno sheets...He paid for them, they are his. What he wants to do with them is his business. From what I read, now every vendor is trying to lay claim to helping on the project. Greeeeedy people out there.

I don't see anything wrong with the guy wanting to keep his charts off the net. It's not like he won some kind of "golden hero biscuit".

If he is going to sell his 1000 HP "tune" to the public, then dyno sheets will be appropriate.

I wish them the best of luck with the whole project.. I don't care much about dyno sheets, and I do believe the numbers. I just wonder how it will do at a different dyno. I wish David would just take his dyno to the truck.. haha =) All people would put their doubts to rest then..

you would be surprised how easilly it is to duplicate or get a general idea of tunes this way :)

Wait... How do you really feel Mike? [laugh]

IMHO, I would venture a guess that the load cell dyno helped spool the twins a bit after seeing hte video, but how much is anyone's guess. Keith made fools out of everyone spraying their single 'charger dmax, I think there's a bit of jealously afoot in the DP ranks.

brandon.

He has already admitted to making his power in an RPM range that is not the normal for that truck.If he wanted everyone to know what may have taken him weeks,and thousands to find out,he would have posted the graph already.Information shared here is great,but we shouldnt "expect" it,or think it is always going to be on the net.To be honest,if it were mine,with the replys and hot headed remarks,I wouldnt share it here either.

I guess I must have mis read a few of the locked threads. Seems guys want to say a few shots just to say they were in on it. Even builders of a previous engine (which I think you mentioned) that has no bearing on it, or laying claim to the EFI live tune. Its a computer program, and everyone can share the files.. If you want to keep your tune secret, put it in a box IMHO...

I digress.. I can't believe the trouble this truck has caused.

Fools how do you figure?

There is NO reason that this thread has to be taken down the drain just because a few of you can't control your emotions. Scale back the personal attacks and keep it on focus.

Merely from a HP standpoint; Pre-Keith, I doubt you would have found anyone who would have claimed that twins & #2 only would put down more HP than #2, a large 'charger and nitrous. I base that mostly on gotJuice's dyno pulls right after Nathan finished that setup. I think most of hte community wrote them off.

Now that it's possible, I can't wait to see what the dmax camp can churn out. It's good for competition and everyone involved in the sport! How close is the No Limit truck to being ready for the '07 season? What date do your tracks open around there for test & tune?

bradnon.

how much horspepower do you think it takes to make a 5700 -5800 lb truck run 132-134 mph in the quarter,i believe its pretty close to 1000 and it was done 6 moths ago

Who ran that?

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In my dreams... [coffee] [laugh] [laugh] [laugh]

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XLR8R:

I am almost sure that Jess (kingd) is referring to his brother, Buck Spruill, who ran a 10.2 @ 134 MPH at the "T&S Performance Shootout" in Bowling Green, Kentucky last year! His truck is an Ext. Cab Chevy Duramax 4X4, Auto, which runs the Pro-Street Class at the DHRA Drag Race Events.

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John_P

Wow!

That's wicked fast, John :cool:

Brandon,

The truck has it's new motor with good parts in it now.The truck ran the 1/4 late last year with 125 miles on the new motor plus a few 330+ feet from the pulling track,we ran 11.41 on fuel only with the trans still learning it was acting up severely between 3-4 shift so we did not spray her that day.It will go quicker on fuel then we will start adding the spray again.When we ran the 10.85 pass it was still on a single cp3 not any more it fuels hard now.

Not sure what we are going to do since the rules have changed drastically for pro street in 07.We can't add any fiberglass parts to lighten the truck up since we truck pull locally and can't run fiberglass body parts and still truck pull.It weighs around 6100 [verymad]

John P, I don't believe they ran a 10.2 at the TS race.. It was in the 10's, just not that low. I was thinking either 10.6 or 10.8. I made it to that race, though my truck was out of the running before the race began. I know there's no weight restrictions and it must be a full size truck. I am also unclear about the class itself.. I know we run a 10.50 index. Is this just qualifying, or is this the race and afterwords the four fastest trucks can run all out if they choose.. I don't really understand.. It would suck to tune the truck to run 10.50's, and then be expected to tune it to go balls out.

Howling, can't you install the 'glass body panels and just add weight (doesn't have to hang off the front bumper) to meet the minimum for the sled?

The local pulling rules do not allow fiberglass they want the trucks to be stock appering,that means no cowl hoods.The only non factory thing we run is a lexan rear window cause the cage runs thru it.

It's alot of fun to strip the truck down to around 6100 for drag racing and the get the truck to weigh 8000 lbs. max for truck pulling with no hanging weight.[dummy]

Morse:

You may be right. I was there at the "T&S Rally" too and as I recall Buck went low 10's (maybe it was 10.4?) but I will check and get back to you guys. Sorry if I made a mistake on that!:( I know that Bucks Duramax is darn fast though!:o

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the 10.2 passes didnt happen at the ts race that were ran at fayetteville nc,at ts i beleive it was 10.79 or 10.8ish and about 130 mph with a single cp3

You, sir, are insane! (The good kind of insane! [laugh]) I agree, 6100 is heavy for that class. I'm guessing most trucks will be 4-4500 for the 07 season. I really didn't know what to make of the rules- I can't find weight minimums either. It should make Pro Street more reliable. Can you at least gut the dash inside and leave the case stock looking? Can you carpet delete? A/C & fan delete? Pull a battery? Cut the bed floor out? Plastic racing seats? Just thinking here.

I'm thinking 900-1000. I don't think it was much over, but maybe your drivetrain setup is more parasitic than a Dodge like I'm familiar with. Again, keep being NUTS.

Now the big question is "who's the first to need a 'chute"? (150)

bnraond.

Now the big question is "who's the first to need a 'chute"? (150)



that has been changed to 140 mph. so i guess stuckey already needs one.

Thanks for the info... I didn't read that close. How's your rig coming along in hte off-season?

brandon.

oh, it's coming, i should be able to compete in the index part of the prostreet but from what i have heard lately i may not even qualify for the quick 4, especially at 6000 pounds.

u can always pull it :) Stanford has a nice open class LOL

Yeah, I didn't see any quick ideas how you could strip out any more weight, I guess the answer is more power. ;) Best of luck to ya this year.

brandon.

yeah, i'm still trying to figure out that too.[duhhh]

from what i saw and was looking at there no way a 1k truck does not smoke unless there was drugs being used. but looking at the video it does has some power but i really don't think 1k

There are always skeptics and doubters. Sad thing.

with huge turbos and the right tuning you can greatly reduce smoke and still make big power. Westers is particularly known for this. I personally know a guy with a 6" lifted extended cab/short bed dmax on 35's with stock everything on the engine (stock turbo, etc..), runs westers, and goes 13.0 seconds flat in the 1/4 mile. The darn thing doesnt smoke at all, honest. The tuning capabilities of an electronic common-rail diesel are endless...its not a 12 valve. :)

I do kinda agree tho, Ill have to see it with my own eyes to completely beleive it (a 1,000hp pull)

ben

EFI live is a great tool...you can tune it to run exactly as you want it too, and full control over timing, fueling, everything! Smoke can be created or eliminated with a few clicks of the mouse!

Chris

i know but i'm not knocking them if they did do it and if they did that's good thing for he duramax crew but i have noticed alot of time u hvae one person or couple people saying this truck did this and they have no proof of it . like a a truck doing 12 second 1/4 and having no slip or saying i have it but u can't see it or dyno slips. and dynojets i though were made to tune a truck. the drums are only like 2000 pounds and when there spinning there no alot of pressure. i saw mustang dynos that i have seen have like a 2 drums and the tires go in between them and u can put more pressure on a tires to give it a more real life like driving it on the road so they use a dynojet then a mustang dyno to see what they can get out of it insted of a dynojet alot of people use for tunning?

coherently, please

Im gonna be in Michigan to watch Keith and Mad Dog dyno! I cant wait!!

awesome!!! I know a ton of people from the diesel place will be there, it'd be awesome if we could get lots of DTR guys too.:cool: The more smoke the better. :D

when is it?

Yeah, luckily i booked our room as soon as Eric posted the hotels on the DP, they went fast as hell. Me and ol Bswope will be up with the better halfs!
Its june 23, in Holland MI.