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RAMRODD 01-28-2007 11:35 AM

You think they would have a video up by now [duhhh]
Im not saying they didn't achieve their numbers. But they say their was no or little smoke.

Don M 01-28-2007 11:39 AM

Video? Its been up. The smoke is very light for 1K HP truck on Diesel Fuel.

97DodgeRam 01-28-2007 11:44 AM

Was the D-max on drugs or straight #2? Either way, that's a lot of power. I'm sure my truck can dyno 1000 HP, but I haven't put my Schieds Diesel sticker on yet.

Don M 01-28-2007 11:52 AM

#2 Diesel Only. No drugs. Not even water injection

JKM 01-28-2007 11:55 AM

How about a link to the video? I am with lker for now, i would really like to see a dyno sheet.

If they did it , that's great, and it would have been alot of work.

Don M 01-28-2007 12:03 PM

Skeptics, skeptics, always skeptics. [laugh]

The owner lives in Medicine Hat, Alberta, Canada. The dyno event was in Danville Indiana. He is driving home right now in the truck with his trailer behind him (-:

Give him some time and the graphs will go up, if he decides to post them.

Here is the video. Does that look like 1k in smoke?

http://rides.webshots.com/video/3043369300096577034

Begle1 01-28-2007 12:13 PM

Indiana?

Good, I didn't miss anything at the Corona dyno...

gman07 01-28-2007 12:27 PM

Crazy... 1000hp with little smoke and almost 2000 lb. ft. torque... [eyecrazy] [guitar]

Why do the turbo's sound the way they do? You can hear them spool up, then the noise goes away, and you hear them spool down after the run...?

Also, anyone know what turbos the truck was running?

inline6power 01-28-2007 12:44 PM

what was coming out of the hood? soon as he let off the throttle, you hear a slight pop, then if you look at the passenger headlight, you can see alot of fluid coming out. was that just overflow from the radiator?

Dieselboats 01-28-2007 01:44 PM

The discussion was it probably lifted an injector cup. This was an issue discussed earlier. Made a bunch of 950+ plus runs the night before when they were tuning it.

duratothemax 01-28-2007 02:02 PM

lots of hard work went into this truck, and congrads to everyone involved.

nice to hear the dmax's are catching up to the dodges as far as power numbers etc, its the strong competition between brands that keeps people taking these rigs farther and farther.

wait so where are the powerstrokes in this picture..? :D

inline6power 01-28-2007 02:06 PM

lol like the last post lol. i do have to say i have seen 1 powerstroke that i would drive anyday of the week. its the blue pulling truck thats got twin P Pumps on it. its a sick truck. other than that one, thats the only big HP ford i have seen.

BlackBeast 01-28-2007 02:54 PM

Hey JKM Im coming down to Sunnyvale in a little while and I was thinking I should grab some chicken fingers,some pepperoni and we could get drunk and kick Randy & Laheys Edit. Edited by Admin

Morse 01-28-2007 03:06 PM

Those are great numbers.. Were they uncorrected numbers? If not, what was the correction factor? I read the post on The Diesel Place, and I didn't ever see it mentioned?

Little03 01-28-2007 03:18 PM


Originally Posted by Begle1 (Post 1322756)
HP is what gets you down the track; torque is what breaks drivelines as you try to leave the Christmas tree. [coffee]



Last I check Torque moves the truck down the track.

Cuz in the 1/4 mile and ur torque converter locks up in over drive and ur tach hits 1500rpm and then ur truck starts to pull like crazy and u go faster. Its the torque thats moving you.

Begle1 01-28-2007 03:20 PM


Originally Posted by Little03 (Post 1324281)
Its the torque thats moving you.

But it's the horsepower that's moving you quickly. ;)

BlackBeast 01-28-2007 03:51 PM

The only thing that is factored into the computer at the dyno I go to is tire size. The Operator does not correct the #'s. I really want to hit a dynojet. I thought for everything I have I would have hit higher but someone told me I would see around a 30HP bump by hitting a dynojet. Im also going to re dyno when I add a TST twins. I pulled those #'s with Predator stage 3, and crazy larry.

duratothemax 01-28-2007 07:55 PM


Originally Posted by gman07 (Post 1324067)
Craz
Why do the turbo's sound the way they do? You can hear them spool up, then the noise goes away, and you hear them spool down after the run...?

Also, anyone know what turbos the truck was running?


they sound like that simply because of the sound limitations of the video cameras microphone. The whistle became so high pitched as the turbos spooled that the camera mic couldnt pick it up.

Keith is running a custom set of IdahoCTD (nathan wright) turbos

gman07 01-28-2007 08:04 PM


Originally Posted by duratothemax (Post 1324786)
they sound like that simply because of the sound limitations of the video cameras microphone. The whistle became so high pitched as the turbos spooled that the camera mic couldnt pick it up.

Keith is running a custom set of IdahoCTD (nathan wright) turbos

That makes sense. The video would be more fun to watch with a higher quality mic [whistle][coffee]

Beeram305 01-28-2007 08:56 PM

Well guys, looks like we have some catchin up to do! Isn't competition great? [guitar]

joefarmer 01-29-2007 12:15 PM


Originally Posted by gman07 (Post 1324067)
Crazy... 1000hp with little smoke and almost 2000 lb. ft. torque... [eyecrazy] [guitar]

Why do the turbo's sound the way they do? You can hear them spool up, then the noise goes away, and you hear them spool down after the run...?

Also, anyone know what turbos the truck was running?

It was a load cell dynojet, that's why the turbos sound that way. I'd guess that it's uncorrected numbers since the corrected numbers for Indiana yesterday would have been negative with the frigid cold. ;)

brnaodn.

JOHNBOY6.6 01-29-2007 01:15 PM


Originally Posted by signature600 (Post 1323795)
When you get to those power levels, the "ratio's" seem to even out...but for most of us, the Cummins usually ALWAYS makes more torque per HP....at least here in Central Ohio! My old 95 at 400hp was putting down more torque than some Duramaxs with 525-550.

At least that's what I see! Don't take this as a bash, or a "Dodge is better:p" post, that's not how I mean it! 1000hp is 1000hp, I don't care who makes it, I'll congratulate them! I've said it all along that the Duramax has impressed me...but I still like my old 12v's:D:D

Chris

Getting the torque up to more than twice the HP on a Dmax is tricky. I have a bunch of tunes that all dyno with in 20hp of each other. But torque is all over. I am talking a range of 250ft/lbs. To much or to little fuel or timing before 2000rpm really effects torque without effecting the horsepower so much. I took me a lot of dyno time and mostly dumb luck to get my torque up where I wanted it. The trouble is the turbo. Getting it lit but not overfueling is not easy. Every truck is different. My tune on another truck may not run as strong. That is the trouble with "canned" tuning. It was done on someone elses truck. IMHO the Dmax can and will make big torque. It just takes real solid tuning tailored for your truck.

signature600 01-29-2007 02:24 PM


Originally Posted by JOHNBOY6.6 (Post 1325971)
Getting the torque up to more than twice the HP on a Dmax is tricky. I have a bunch of tunes that all dyno with in 20hp of each other. But torque is all over. I am talking a range of 250ft/lbs. To much or to little fuel or timing before 2000rpm really effects torque without effecting the horsepower so much. I took me a lot of dyno time and mostly dumb luck to get my torque up where I wanted it. The trouble is the turbo. Getting it lit but not overfueling is not easy. Every truck is different. My tune on another truck may not run as strong. That is the trouble with "canned" tuning. It was done on someone elses truck. IMHO the Dmax can and will make big torque. It just takes real solid tuning tailored for your truck.

It's the same with any engine...a 12v with lotsa timing and BIG turbo's will normally make less torque than one with smaller chargers or less timing!

I'll agree with you though, it's all in the tuning!
Chris

timbeaux38 01-29-2007 03:14 PM

Eric Merchant told me of the numbers before I could get my foot out of the truck this past weekend at Suncoast. I am very happy for those guys they worked VERY hard to get there. The Stuckey truck could only muster 956ish on the bottle this weekend, that got anyone scared?

duratothemax 01-29-2007 03:28 PM


Originally Posted by Beeram305 (Post 1324923)
Well guys, looks like we have some catchin up to do! Isn't competition great? [guitar]

eh not really. Madsen's engine is all stock with the exception of lower compression pistons.

Nasty Girl has quite a few internal mods.

inline6power 01-29-2007 03:36 PM


Originally Posted by duratothemax (Post 1326195)
eh not really. Madsen's engine is all stock with the exception of lower compression pistons.

Nasty Girl has quite a few internal mods.

just wanted to say thanks for being a gentlemen, any other person would have ran with that and say oh the DMAX is king now, and that cummins has all this catching up to do. thanks for being a nice guy:cool: well in my eyes at least. got to give credit where credit is due.

JKM 01-29-2007 07:45 PM


Originally Posted by Don M (Post 1324038)
Skeptics, skeptics, always skeptics. [laugh]

The owner lives in Medicine Hat, Alberta, Canada. The dyno event was in Danville Indiana. He is driving home right now in the truck with his trailer behind him (-:

Give him some time and the graphs will go up, if he decides to post them.

Here is the video. Does that look like 1k in smoke?

http://rides.webshots.com/video/3043369300096577034

He is from the Hat eh, Do you know if he ever goes to the drag races there? I was to the drag races there back in may , but there was only one D max running , only diesel running infact , and it was a red dually.

Lil Dog 01-30-2007 12:04 AM


Originally Posted by jwb600 (Post 1326915)
hey off the subject, you help build lots of trks correct?
can I get a built tranny with just an input shaft and be ok or get all billet shafts if possible?
feedback is very appreciated

Instead of Hijacking the thread, try the PM system..[nonono]


Good work. Man I don't care how you do it, but 1000 Hp on #2 only is a pretty elite club. The ability of building your own tunes with EFI Live just amazes me. Ford puts in stop-blocks in their ECM to catch downloaders and GM leaves it wide open for anyone with a laptop to tune... Crazy...

Don M injectors to boot, very nice.

JOHNBOY6.6 01-30-2007 02:14 AM


Originally Posted by signature600 (Post 1326088)
It's the same with any engine...a 12v with lotsa timing and BIG turbo's will normally make less torque than one with smaller chargers or less timing!

I'll agree with you though, it's all in the tuning!
Chris


I do agree. The CTD will make more torque at the same HP if tuned correctly.[coffee]

Got Juice? 01-30-2007 02:24 AM


Originally Posted by Lil Dog (Post 1327200)
Instead of Hijacking the thread, try the PM system..[nonono]


Good work. Man I don't care how you do it, but 1000 Hp on #2 only is a pretty elite club. The ability of building your own tunes with EFI Live just amazes me. Ford puts in stop-blocks in their ECM to catch downloaders and GM leaves it wide open for anyone with a laptop to tune... Crazy...

Don M injectors to boot, very nice.


LOL, can you imagine TWICE the Power that we had on our trip to Red Deer?[dummy] [dummy] [duhhh] [duhhh]

It was fun with what we had, I cannot imagine what 2x the HP would be like to drive.

jwb600 01-30-2007 05:00 AM

hey littledog just trying to ask a question. I didnt hijack anything. But I deleted the question, since its such a big deal.

Lil Dog 01-30-2007 12:50 PM


Originally Posted by jwb600 (Post 1327334)
hey littledog just trying to ask a question. I didnt hijack anything. But I deleted the question, since its such a big deal.

No big deal man... You just would get a faster response with a direct PM. With 5 pages of posts its gonna get lost real fast. Not intending to offend..[redface]


GJ,

I couldn't see how 2X the power would be driveable, let alone in a 2WD... Thats just nutz. Mind you the engine is FAARRRRR from stock..[laugh]

HOOKED 01-30-2007 04:49 PM

Wouldnt mind seeing that thing on a sled! Wonder how she would hold up!?!!

Mike Holmen 01-30-2007 10:22 PM

I wonder how motor he's gone thru to put up those kinda numbers? It would be interesting to see how well it holds together.

Lil Dog 01-30-2007 10:31 PM

It seems to me that after all the internal mods (pistons, rods, cam, block girdle, head mods etc. etc.) the heads are going to be the weakest link. The last runs reported glycol boiling out and they found that the injectors were lifting out of their cup bores in the head. Some were saying that another clip will hold it, but I seem to think that the high internal pressures are putting that Aluminum into its limits for strength. Now before all the bricks start flying about the Nitromethane dragsters using aluminum, true, but they only last about 10 seconds.

As far as how long it lasts, who knows. Kinda cool to have a Canadian flag on it, not to mention from good ol Alberta.

Dieselboats 01-30-2007 10:39 PM

I really think the, "holding together" question is in everyone's minds, especially us Dmax owners. The Nasty Girl is awesome, Keith wanted a 1000hp daily driver, obvoiusly he doesn't drive it daily on the big tune, but he wanted a driver. We do not know how long a Dmax engine built this way will hold up, because no one has done it before with a Dmax. The innerds, turbos, injectors and lift pumps are state of the art for Dmax after market. It will be interesting to watch and see. The common rail is the key, the strides that have been made in a few short years are really something. The 12 valves will be considered classics before long, really fun and got have one for old times sake, but the new common rails in all the brands will rule for sure.

Hdmax 01-31-2007 07:25 AM

I bet a dollar to a donut that Kyle Michael's truck is at those power levels, and has been for a year or more. His engine is the least of his problem. He breaks other stuff, but the engine just roars along.


Originally Posted by Dieselboats (Post 1328984)
I really think the, "holding together" question is in everyone's minds, especially us Dmax owners. The Nasty Girl is awesome, Keith wanted a 1000hp daily driver, obvoiusly he doesn't drive it daily on the big tune, but he wanted a driver. We do not know how long a Dmax engine built this way will hold up, because no one has done it before with a Dmax. The innerds, turbos, injectors and lift pumps are state of the art for Dmax after market. It will be interesting to watch and see. The common rail is the key, the strides that have been made in a few short years are really something. The 12 valves will be considered classics before long, really fun and got have one for old times sake, but the new common rails in all the brands will rule for sure.


duratothemax 01-31-2007 09:12 AM


Originally Posted by Lil Dog (Post 1328966)
It seems to me that after all the internal mods (pistons, rods, cam, block girdle, head mods etc. etc.) the.

it doesnt have any block mods as far as I know. The pistons are stock pistons that have been cut down.

madsens engine is all stock right as far as internals?

Lil Dog 01-31-2007 11:33 AM


Originally Posted by duratothemax (Post 1329483)
it doesnt have any block mods as far as I know. The pistons are stock pistons that have been cut down.

madsens engine is all stock right as far as internals?

Maybe I didn't read the post right on another site. I thought it did have some lower end work, which I would expect on any engine at that power level. I highly doubt that a stock block could hold 4 X the power of the stock levels. Especially with all the damage associated with what would be called now, modest power adders. Most were having cracked mains and block supports over 800 Hp..

duratothemax 01-31-2007 12:41 PM

the only thing It has in the bottom I THINK are ARP main studs

is madsens engine ALL stock?


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