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dvst8r 08-21-2009 11:30 AM

Drag Wars
 
Good luck tonight Kev, I hope you get your 9.xx :cool:


Anyone else going?

kennyblatz 08-21-2009 12:08 PM

whatever happens keep us posted, good luck kevin

Dr. Evil 08-21-2009 01:14 PM

He said he will have video

morkable 08-21-2009 01:40 PM

Thanks guys,, Kelly is going to be running the video. I have tuned it down a bit, just so I dont break tonight,, I will probably dial it up sunday and see if there is a 9 in there.... also I will probably get kicked off the track if I run a 9.. between not having a proper roll cage, and no tranny blanket, and no competition license

dvst8r 08-21-2009 02:08 PM

Did you just dial back the spray? Or did you turn down your tune as well?

morkable 08-22-2009 01:00 AM

Just dialed back the nitrous.. got some runs in today,, lots of problems with fuel,,, running out before the 1/8 mile mark... the problem we were having last week is still there,, going to drill the tank and put a draw straw on in the morning.. sure was launching hard though,, spun the tires every pass, 1 run over 300 feet of rubber, before it ran out of fuel... should be some good stuff tomorrow if they prep the track better and I get the fuel issue figured out.

Ill keep you posted

morkable 08-22-2009 07:36 PM

Well my fass is definately dying. I removed the factory lift pump, and put a hose straight in for the fass, pressure still drops off,, got it maxed out, seems to hold at around 21 psi, maxed out.. have to replace that I guess.. Been launching really hard,, but I have been having alot of problems with the tranny going into limp mode on me,, havent really had a good run at all... actually have only ran 2 complete passes which were both really slow due to the fuel pressure problem... see what happens tomorrow I guess, have no idea what to dial in at,,

Dr. Evil 08-22-2009 08:12 PM

Thats too bad - hopefully you can get some warranty on that one. If not, it might be time to switch to an Airdog.

morkable 08-22-2009 08:42 PM

Yes it might be, going to try for warranty though and sell it then.. I will go to a bigger one then

Swamp_Donkey 08-23-2009 12:18 PM

Hope you get in a good run Kevin! Would a 47 rh help you out any or do you have to keep your 48re?

dvst8r 08-23-2009 08:03 PM

I have been away camping all weekend, just walked in the door. I'm glad to see the boots held, but sad to see that you have other issues.

Hopefully you got at least one decent run in this weekend.

Doj Dewd 08-23-2009 11:03 PM

you may want to look into a mitusa pump if you are going to be replacing the fass.

in talks with opie he has kits available for dual cp3's and the gusher pump (bigger one of two choices) will put out 200 psi if needed - of course this is controlled with a regulator.

morkable 08-24-2009 12:02 AM

Well as it turned out the fuel pump was the least of my worries this weekend.... I finally got all the other bugs out, and then I found a new way to screw things up,, lol. I put a sightline in my block, from either tire you can look through my engine and see the other tire. Amazing thing is, the truck was still making power for another 600 feet after this happened,, and even when I finally got the truck stopped it was still running, I had actually shut the truck off... lots of parts and oil all down the track...

I guess time for that dream engine,,, got any spare blocks in your garage there Mike,, LOL

Diesel Dave2 08-24-2009 12:33 AM

Wow....Thats not good..:o

morkable 08-24-2009 01:13 AM

No, not good,, know anyone with a engine for sale,, cheap,, lol

greenworks 08-24-2009 07:23 AM

Sorry to hear about the damage I was following to see how it would make out...Is this going to put a end to the dream or this a speed bump in the road?

Mike Holmen 08-24-2009 09:14 AM

Whats wrong with the Fass pump? We should just rip her apart and see whats wrong.

Yup, I do Kev. I have a nice clean 01 engine. Your head would just fit on. We could put in a gridle for the mains and put some studs. I can work with you if you want to change things. I was going to build up my 98 12v this winter, but I can do both at the same time. I was saving up for pistons. I found some Ross pistons. I probably can get a decent deal if I wait a month or two after the season ends. We should look into the billet plates to re-inforce the lifter tappet covers, frost plugs, and so on. I guess at that point you should put in a big cam as well.[duhhh]

Sorry for you bad luck, what ever you decide, can I get the broken block? I need an engine for a mock-up engine. Next year prior to race, we should get a witch vodoo doctor to get rid of all the bad stuff.

So which issue of Diesel mag you gonna be in?

Dr. Evil 08-24-2009 09:27 AM

Whoa...that sucks.






On the brightside....you can finally get rid of that 3rd gen engine and get yourself a pee-pump...[laugh] [laugh]

Lil Dog 08-24-2009 10:49 AM

Whoa.. Thats just bad... Sorry to hear Kevin... :(

dvst8r 08-24-2009 10:53 AM

And here I was worried about the HG popping with only a couple re-torques...

Sorry for the bad luck, you must have been making some big power to pop the block. That is typically a pullers trick not a drag racers.

Any videos of the runs you did make?

Mlucas 08-24-2009 11:38 AM


Originally Posted by morkable (Post 2559525)
Well as it turned out the fuel pump was the least of my worries this weekend.... I finally got all the other bugs out, and then I found a new way to screw things up,, lol. I put a sightline in my block, from either tire you can look through my engine and see the other tire. Amazing thing is, the truck was still making power for another 600 feet after this happened,, and even when I finally got the truck stopped it was still running, I had actually shut the truck off... lots of parts and oil all down the track...

I guess time for that dream engine,,, got any spare blocks in your garage there Mike,, LOL

" put a sight line in my block".....[laugh][laugh][laugh][laugh]. What a great saying....
Sorry for your luck....

Mike Holmen 08-24-2009 12:05 PM

How big was the spill on the track? Did Kelly get the video? At least you did a decent kill. There is always more motors out there.[dummy]

Swamp_Donkey 08-24-2009 01:16 PM

Must see a pic please when you get time......... Did you have a 53 block? [dummy] In all seriousness that sucks man. Sorry to hear about the death of a cummins.

ccmckee 08-24-2009 01:34 PM

Shouldn't be a 53 in a third gen.

Tate 08-24-2009 04:16 PM


Originally Posted by dvst8r (Post 2559759)
And here I was worried about the HG popping with only a couple re-torques...

You and me both.

We need to see some pics. Sucks to hear, but now you get your wish of building up a race motor. The doc is right, lets throw a 12v in there. You won't be rpm limited anymore.

morkable 08-24-2009 05:05 PM


Originally Posted by greenworks (Post 2559607)
Sorry to hear about the damage I was following to see how it would make out...Is this going to put a end to the dream or this a speed bump in the road?

Just a speed bump,, I knew it was going to happen sooner or later, even the cummins can only handle so much.... I can tell you this much, that truck was making serious HP... I was launching harder than I have ever seen... I was pulling on 8 second cars,, sometimes spinning all 4 to half track... It was a beast.,., I estimate minimum 1300 HP.

Mike, can we build a CR with that block? I would love to have you help me build one, I think it would be cool,,, also start dreaming up twins,, using this turbo as the top turbo,, I had absolutely no problem spooling that turbo,, I could get 20 PSI no problem on the line and very quickly too... I was launching at only 10 or less just to keep the violent wheel spin under control.


When the engine let go, I was pulling away on a 9.90 car. Truck was still making power with the holes in the block... amazing I tell you.

We have some pics and videos, and will get them up as soon as I get a moment!

dodgediesel 08-24-2009 05:39 PM

OMG!!!! That's crazy Kevin.............:o:o:o:o:o:o

Mike Holmen 08-24-2009 06:12 PM

How low buck you want to do? You have idea if the rods/pistons survived?
How about the head? The gearbox survive? Replacing the block is easy and do a simple rebuild. A few upgrades in the right spots, you should be good to go.

You could also just find another CR motor, and try again. That might be easier and just add the reforcing parts.

To me its amazing that a near stock engine survived that much power (abuse). Try that with a duraweak or power joke.[laugh]

morkable 08-24-2009 07:25 PM

Tranny and turbo are good,, just the block an such... not sure about the head,,, not sure if maybe that is where the trouble started... one of the guys helping do the cleanup said that he found some valve keepers on the track,, that would sure suck if my troubles came from that brand new head

dvst8r 08-24-2009 09:59 PM

So if you go twins are you going to drop the spray?

morkable 08-25-2009 12:21 AM

yeah,, but i am going to change it up some more..

Cummins610 08-25-2009 11:43 AM

Dont know anything about it or if its a good deal but........
http://edmonton.kijiji.ca/c-cars-veh...AdIdZ150724625

morkable 08-25-2009 12:34 PM

Im definately going to check into it.. If it is in decent shape it isnt a bad price for sure

Thanks for keeping a eye out, it is really appreciated

Tate 08-25-2009 04:49 PM

If you are building up another CR, you will need a CR block. Can't put an older timing case on a new block, or vice versa. Not with out some machining, anyway.

Kev, did you get a time slip for that run? Be interesting to see what kind of run you were on your way to. Did any of the rods fail?

dvst8r 08-25-2009 05:36 PM


Originally Posted by morkable (Post 2560441)
yeah,, but i am going to change it up some more..

I am assuming rods, decompressed pistons, big cam, cummins main girdle. head work, machined off intake, and custom intake, fogger style water setup... [laugh]

If you are planing on doing head work let me know. I know Farrell quite well, (he started the PDR head program, back when Piers was still running the show) He works out of one of my close friends shop now.

morkable 08-25-2009 06:00 PM

everything you said except the lower compression. Due to the lower RPM it really isnt of much benefit to lower the compression. I believe it actually hurts you more than helps. I dont think I will run water either, as EGT's dont seem to be an issue for me either. But everything else is on the table.

I will keep that in mind about Farrell though, I wasnt very happy with the product that Trac engine put out for sure.


Tate, I won the race, but I didnt get the time slip unfortunately... I do know though it was working,, I was really starting to get it dialed in.. the car I was racing was dialed in at 9.90 and I was pulling on him. Would have been interesting to see the time slip for sure.


I looked at that add in Kijiji that cummins 610 posted,, 4 grand for a 03 CR and a auto tranny,, sounds like a pretty good price to me,, what do you guys think?

Mike Holmen 08-25-2009 07:16 PM

Whats all on the motor? Findout if its stripped down. Some people sell a motor without injection pump, turbo, injectors, and who nows what else. How many miles on the motor? $4K seems on the high side, but if it has the right parts and all the electronics still on it. See if you can get the ecm and wiring harness as well. You never know.

Cutting off the intake plenum is really only worth it if you rev the motor up to 5000+ rpms. There was a guy on comp diesel that did some dyno and drag times. The motor made more power, just moved up the rpm band. If Kev is limited to 4k, a decent home porting is enough.

Tate, could the older storm blocks be used for a CR? I think that they have the bigger bolts and stiffer block. I might have one, and we can machine the gearbox housing. I would also run a reforcing plate instead of the tappet covers. I don't know if you can drill and install larger bolts for the plate. I saw the Dr. Performance truck at the black had one. Mr Evil might have a picture. I hope that the pistons and rods are ok. We can build a back-up motor for ya, for extreme abuse that Kev's right foot dishes out.

Wow, A 9.90 run, in a 6500lb truck. Thats one fast truck. Can we use it to go for a ice cream run?[laugh]

rage_blue 08-25-2009 07:48 PM

That was one hell of a bang when that thing went. It was load over in the pit area. I cant wait to see what you get together for an engine next year.

morkable 08-25-2009 07:50 PM

LOL,, the engine is complete except for turbo, fan and exhaust manifold. It even comes with the tranny.. had 84000 km on it only,, should be good

Dr. Evil 08-26-2009 12:14 AM


Originally Posted by Mike Holmen (Post 2560987)
I would also run a reforcing plate instead of the tappet covers. I don't know if you can drill and install larger bolts for the plate. I saw the Dr. Performance truck at the black had one. Mr Evil might have a picture.

I am not sure I have a good pic as I was just snapping random pics - but here they are:


http://s14.photobucket.com/albums/a3...DrPerformance/


I also included a few shots of the jet car to make Holmen drool.....[coffee]


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