Evaluating Future Trucks not yet released to the public.
08-22-2011, 07:36 PM
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So if I understand you correctly (I can be a little thick sometimes), the "big" thing you couldn't talk about was the V8 Cummins powerplant? Not trying to belittle, just clarifying.
So if I understand you correctly (I can be a little thick sometimes), the "big" thing you couldn't talk about was the V8 Cummins powerplant? Not trying to belittle, just clarifying.
08-22-2011, 07:38 PM
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By the way, before anyone gets too comfy with the concept of a Cummins V8, you only feel comfy in Cummins V8 design potential if you've never been around a Cummins 555 "Triple Nickel". Granted, it's thirty five or forty year old history, but still not their proudest moment.
08-22-2011, 08:06 PM
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No, the first link talks about a V8 in a HD and the third link talks about the V8 in 2500 and 3500's. I saw one (in person) in a 2500 Laramie not to long ago. No one is saying they will for sure take a step in this direction, BUT I do know they are heavily considering the V8 in the HD trucks. The window sticker read, "Cummins 6.7L V8 400HP 800ft. lbs torque.
I am curious as to why most of you are upset about this (If it ever does happen)? The only thing changing is the block configuration yet you are getting more HP out of the engine compared to the I-6 currently??? It's still a Cummins.
I am curious as to why most of you are upset about this (If it ever does happen)? The only thing changing is the block configuration yet you are getting more HP out of the engine compared to the I-6 currently??? It's still a Cummins.
What they need to work on is an 8-speed dual clutch auto tranny and get the fuel mileage up with the same power. A stock 350hp 800tq is plenty off the factory line. If you want more, turn it up....LOL
08-25-2011, 12:24 PM
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One reason they might be thinking about a V8 is the cubic inch displacement ot the 6 and the 8 are the same and the 8 has two more cylinders to produce more torque and horse power with the same fuel economy.
08-25-2011, 01:12 PM
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What they need to work on is an 8-speed dual clutch auto tranny and get the fuel mileage up with the same power. A stock 350hp 800tq is plenty off the factory line. If you want more, turn it up....LOL
__________________I agree if they are going to stay with the 6 this is the way to go. The ZF 8 speed trans mission won't be available in large numbers until late 2012 when the production facilities are finished so Chrysler can produce them under license from ZF. From what I have read about these transmissions is that they can be built to live in a diesel environment. I'm sure Ram makes out like a fat rat on the profit side on the 6 and doesn't want to invest into new technology unless the have to.
__________________I agree if they are going to stay with the 6 this is the way to go. The ZF 8 speed trans mission won't be available in large numbers until late 2012 when the production facilities are finished so Chrysler can produce them under license from ZF. From what I have read about these transmissions is that they can be built to live in a diesel environment. I'm sure Ram makes out like a fat rat on the profit side on the 6 and doesn't want to invest into new technology unless the have to.
08-25-2011, 07:33 PM
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08-25-2011, 08:02 PM
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So shed some light, if you want a I6 Cummins should you get one now?
If they are going to a V8, I would much rather just go the Ford route since I like the body and interior better, plus the locking hubs and many other features. The I6 Cummins is the only thing that would have me going for a new Ram.
Tobin
If they are going to a V8, I would much rather just go the Ford route since I like the body and interior better, plus the locking hubs and many other features. The I6 Cummins is the only thing that would have me going for a new Ram.
Tobin
No, the first link talks about a V8 in a HD and the third link talks about the V8 in 2500 and 3500's. I saw one (in person) in a 2500 Laramie not to long ago. No one is saying they will for sure take a step in this direction, BUT I do know they are heavily considering the V8 in the HD trucks. The window sticker read, "Cummins 6.7L V8 400HP 800ft. lbs torque.
Back in the 1st gen days, I met a Cummins rep traveling with the Dodge Rep. He said that Cummins had a 4 Cylinder which would blow away the 6. He followed that with it is marketing and appeal to truck buyers. I am sure they want a V8 because the other manufacturers have a V8 and we still have a 6 Cylinder. Little do the marketeers know, they already have the best of the best.
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