I see that the new 2013 trucks with have the urea tank. Do you think this will be better then what the 2012 is using now? Or would it be better to get the 2012 and just delete?

 

Dude wait for the 13's. Read the write up In motor trend. Every year there seems to be improvements. Kinda wish I would have waited a little longer But I really like my 11.

 

Stock, the 2013s should get better mpgs than the stock 2012s. But if you're going to delete anyway then probably just stick with the 2012s, which are around $12k off MSRP right now.

On the other hand if you are thinking 3500 then I'd definitely wait for the 2013, as they will be rated at 850 ft/lbs and have the Aisin trans, along with frame and suspension upgrades to increase the tow ratings. Some people are looking forward to urea as it should reduce some problems related to the current EGR set-up.

 

i just bought a 2012. was going to wait for the 13 but you cant beat the price of the 12 plus it will pull what i want to pull. If u need to have the latest and greatest wait but if a 2012 will do what u want then i would jump on it. The money you save will buy lots of fuel

 

Heard a rumour that the wheel bolt pattern changed from 8x6.5 on the 2013's. Any truth to that? Going to buy winter wheels for my 2011 but won't bother if they won't fit the new trucks when I upgrade next year

 

Well I took the plunge and bought a 2012 Laramie 4X4!

I love everything about it over the old 5.9 except the fuel mileage!

 

I am also wondering which way to go, 2012 or 2013. Price is not an issue (fleet pricing through work) but my concern is re-sale value. Since this will be the first year with the urea, will this lower the value on a trade in later on? I am having this problem right now with my 2007, even though it has low miles, the dealership values it very low since it is the first year of the 6.7. Thoughts?????

Of course ordering a 2013 will also be a bit of a wait as opposed to driving a 2012 off the lot right now.

 

I'm thinking the 2012s will be golden, especially the high-end models. My thought is because it's the last year of the non-urea trucks with most of the bugs worked out on everything else and people like me that really don't tow anything but just want a bad a$$ truck will get no benefit from the 2013.

So someone in the future market for a cool solid truck without the hassle of urea are going to be looking hard at the 2012s. It's just a thought anyway.

 

It's not like it's the first year of SCR (or urea) as the system has been around for 3 years on the CC trucks without too much trouble.

 

That's all great but would you rather just put diesel in your truck and go, or have to worry about some other fluid you have to manage now?

 

Worst part using DEF fluid (urea) is prone to freeze up very easy and there are instrumentation issues with the probes. Duramax/ford guys are having lots of issues. On hiway trucks its isn't as bad as the truck never shuts off.

If you want to leave your truck almost stock than a 2012 is a good deal. I really want the new 2013 aisin so I can crank up the power, but probably going to convert my 2010 to a manual and save some money.

 

The DEF tank on these 2013's will have a heater; something Ford & GM don't have. I'd think about trading up, but I just can't wrap my head around the dually bed for the MegaCabs.

 

Looks like Ram is closing the pricing gap with Ford and GMC. I was just reading the latest Diesel Power/World magazine and it quotes the base price for a 13 Longhorn at $62 and the base price for a 12 Longhorn is $57.

I got $14k off the sticker on my 12 but I doubt you'll get a cut like that on a 13, at least not anytime soon.

 

The way things are going you probably won't be able to delete anything off the 13's If you want a stock truck forever then wait. If not buy a 12 and find somebody that has some programmers and delete kits left.