2012 vs 2013
#1
2012 vs 2013
I know there are other similar threads on this but I could find an answer to my question reading through these.
I plan to purchase a new truck in the next few days. This will be my 3rd Dodge 2500 diesel. Prevously I've had a 2004 and 2008. I run them up to 200,000 miles or so and sell them.
Here's my question, Should I spend the extra money on the 2013 or buy a 2012? I think there is about a $4,000 to $6,000 difference between actual cost and incentives.
I am in the trucking industry so I understand the whole DPF, EGR, SCR, DEF stuff. In big trucks with the introduction of SCR and DEF we saw a little increase in fuel mileage, and a decrease in problems with DPF clogging, at the cost of problems with DEF contamination, DEF pressure problems, DEF pump problems, etc. Not alot, but still problems.
At this point I am not convinced the SCR equipped motors are more reliable than the straight DPF. (150,000 miles on oldest truck vs 500,000 miles on straight DPF trucks).
Back to the Dodge. I plan to drive approx. 70,000 miles per year. Mostly freeway miles not towing anything.
I don't care about coolness, power and torque differences or towing differences. MPG and more importantly RELIABILITY are what I am looking at. I can't afford for this truck to be breaking down.
Anyone with experience have an opinion?
I plan to purchase a new truck in the next few days. This will be my 3rd Dodge 2500 diesel. Prevously I've had a 2004 and 2008. I run them up to 200,000 miles or so and sell them.
Here's my question, Should I spend the extra money on the 2013 or buy a 2012? I think there is about a $4,000 to $6,000 difference between actual cost and incentives.
I am in the trucking industry so I understand the whole DPF, EGR, SCR, DEF stuff. In big trucks with the introduction of SCR and DEF we saw a little increase in fuel mileage, and a decrease in problems with DPF clogging, at the cost of problems with DEF contamination, DEF pressure problems, DEF pump problems, etc. Not alot, but still problems.
At this point I am not convinced the SCR equipped motors are more reliable than the straight DPF. (150,000 miles on oldest truck vs 500,000 miles on straight DPF trucks).
Back to the Dodge. I plan to drive approx. 70,000 miles per year. Mostly freeway miles not towing anything.
I don't care about coolness, power and torque differences or towing differences. MPG and more importantly RELIABILITY are what I am looking at. I can't afford for this truck to be breaking down.
Anyone with experience have an opinion?
#2
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This is what the Turbo Diesel Registry .Com has to say about the new 2013 trucks and all of the improvements to the 2013 Ram model. About half way down under the Edge article is the HD Ram description and changes over the 4th gen trucks of 2010 through 2012 MY's.
http://www.turbodieselregister.com/a...ress-Releases/
Jim W.
http://www.turbodieselregister.com/a...ress-Releases/
Jim W.
#3
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Here's what I have learned from the 2011 auto and manual 6.7. You must buy an auto truck with 3.42 gears if you want a chance at reasonable fuel economy and if you can delete the truck to give a decent oil change interval with no engine codes. Deleted you could probably do 25,000ml oil and filter using Amsoil full synthetic and their EAO80 filter, before we deleted the manual truck it was giving the message at 1500ml and the oil was like water and badly diluted with fuel. If you can't delete then I would look at a 2013.
#5
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TBH my sons 2011 manual truck is out of service because of a gearbox problem so he's been driving company trucks all Dodge 2012's, He stopped by yesterday with a 2012 2500 crew cab 4X4 SB gas truck and was saying how good it was. They are trying gas trucks for the just plain driving and towing only light, it is a bit of a problem on some sites as diesel is readily available. For the kind of driving you are doing you might want to seriously consider a gas truck.
#6
TBH my sons 2011 manual truck is out of service because of a gearbox problem so he's been driving company trucks all Dodge 2012's, He stopped by yesterday with a 2012 2500 crew cab 4X4 SB gas truck and was saying how good it was. They are trying gas trucks for the just plain driving and towing only light, it is a bit of a problem on some sites as diesel is readily available. For the kind of driving you are doing you might want to seriously consider a gas truck.
Good point. I actually already considered a gasser. I am sick and tired at how regulated diesels are these days and personally thing the EPA has totally screwed up diesel engines.
The problem i found was, if I wanted a quad cab laramie with a gas motor, I would have to order it. No body had one. Everyone has a SLT. But no Laramies. Maybe I'll just wait and see how all this plays out. It makes me sick to think that a gas motor might still be my best bet.
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