Limited slip axle?
10-17-2010, 08:24 PM
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"All wheel drive is worse than 4 wheel drive"
Really! I will meet you on an icy hill with my Subaru AWD anytime. I have the 4x4 Dodge (with anti-spin) and this car it runs rings around the 4x4.
Actually the post reply I wanted to say is - folks, the new Dodges have not had limited slip clutch posi since they finished with the Dana70 & 80 in 2002. The offering now is a centrifugal gear locker that does not work at low speeds. Absolutely pointless with this application. IE if you are moving at 20MPH why do you need limited slip? You are already moving and do not need it.
Really! I will meet you on an icy hill with my Subaru AWD anytime. I have the 4x4 Dodge (with anti-spin) and this car it runs rings around the 4x4.
Actually the post reply I wanted to say is - folks, the new Dodges have not had limited slip clutch posi since they finished with the Dana70 & 80 in 2002. The offering now is a centrifugal gear locker that does not work at low speeds. Absolutely pointless with this application. IE if you are moving at 20MPH why do you need limited slip? You are already moving and do not need it.
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10-20-2010, 09:19 PM
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Really the car and truck have different applications but the common ol' icy roads up here in Canada - the Subaru has it beat hands down. And the tires are not even aggressive.
10-21-2010, 07:28 AM
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Give me a well-built 4x4 ATV and it'll run circles around a Subaru. Give me a 4x4 Ram and it'll run circles around a 4x4 motorhome....
It's just another way to look at the Law Of Gross Tonnage, which is how I usually drive.
10-21-2010, 08:08 AM
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Subaru makes a great all-weather car, no doubt, but the truck is over twice the weight of the truck. That, in and of itself, makes up for most of the difference in performance, IMHO. Not to mention the wheelbases, weight distribution, tire footprint, etc.
Give me a well-built 4x4 ATV and it'll run circles around a Subaru. Give me a 4x4 Ram and it'll run circles around a 4x4 motorhome....
It's just another way to look at the Law Of Gross Tonnage, which is how I usually drive.
Give me a well-built 4x4 ATV and it'll run circles around a Subaru. Give me a 4x4 Ram and it'll run circles around a 4x4 motorhome....
It's just another way to look at the Law Of Gross Tonnage, which is how I usually drive.
AWD keeps you on the road, and is designed for that. 4WD is designed for off road, and hard work. Both have their places, and neither is better or worse- just purpose driven.
10-21-2010, 12:25 PM
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Subaru makes a great all-weather car, no doubt, but the truck is over twice the weight of the truck. That, in and of itself, makes up for most of the difference in performance, IMHO. Not to mention the wheelbases, weight distribution, tire footprint, etc.
Give me a well-built 4x4 ATV and it'll run circles around a Subaru. Give me a 4x4 Ram and it'll run circles around a 4x4 motorhome....
It's just another way to look at the Law Of Gross Tonnage, which is how I usually drive.
Give me a well-built 4x4 ATV and it'll run circles around a Subaru. Give me a 4x4 Ram and it'll run circles around a 4x4 motorhome....
It's just another way to look at the Law Of Gross Tonnage, which is how I usually drive.
10-21-2010, 03:43 PM
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Same goes for my 08 Avalance, full or part time even on dry roads.
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10-22-2010, 12:45 PM
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Memories, my 89 Bronco had front and rear plus dual front shocks, you would think today we would have better options instead of less. My Subaru outback went better in sand and snow than any truck I have had. Same goes for my 08 Avalance, full or part time even on dry roads.
Same goes for my 08 Avalance, full or part time even on dry roads.
10-27-2010, 10:41 AM
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An interesting contradiction to that - my heavier 4WD's have always done better on snow covered paved roads, even when that snow hasn't been plowed and is a foot or more deep. But take them on a dirt road covered with snow, and you'd best have a winch... Just depends on use...
10-30-2010, 09:22 PM
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I am going to try and have the last say here (ha ha) . A few years ago the first snow came to Western Canada in the form of 8" in 2 hours. The TransCanada highway turned into a parking lot for everyone. I was 30 miles back in the mountains with every one else parked because THE HEAVY 4X4's would slide sideways towards the ditches on the banked corners. Along comes Barry in the Subaru driving around all the obstacles - semis, buses and the heavy 4x4s. Think I sold a few subarus that day. Yes! It is only good on the slippery highways though. That I concede.