Tire chains?
Tire chains?
I'm going to be in the Rocky Mountain National Park and Summit county area for 2 1/2 weeks during October. Do I need to worry about having a set of tire chains or cables with me? I've already aquired extra fuel filters and a belt for the drive (from Chicago).
I carry chains in the winter for the following reasons:
1. I use to because the Michelin LTX A/S is not a good winter tire, and I needed chains once in awhile. I like the Les Schwab 'alpine chains', which are evidently a Laclede square link 'easy fit' chain.
2. With studded severe snow rated winter tires I've been on ice where the truck started sliding towards the edge of the road, while I was idling and waiting for someone to get pulled out of a ditch. It was raining and then forming ice, so the ice was 'soft' and there wasn't anything for the studs to bite into. I chained up and made it up the 700 ft or so hill that we live on. The only other vehicles that I saw out were large 4wd with chains, and at work I overheard poeple saying that they were sliding around in their cars even with chains on, which I assumed was due to using cable chains on a light vehicle. I think this is about as bad as it gets :^)
3. Around here chains may be required for certain roads or passes, regardless of vehicle or tires, an dit's enforced by state patrol.
4. Chains actually make sense to carry for off road non-winter conditions too, but I usually don't carry them for that.
Chains are fashionable, but sometimes it's the ONLY way you'll be bale to get around.
1. I use to because the Michelin LTX A/S is not a good winter tire, and I needed chains once in awhile. I like the Les Schwab 'alpine chains', which are evidently a Laclede square link 'easy fit' chain.
2. With studded severe snow rated winter tires I've been on ice where the truck started sliding towards the edge of the road, while I was idling and waiting for someone to get pulled out of a ditch. It was raining and then forming ice, so the ice was 'soft' and there wasn't anything for the studs to bite into. I chained up and made it up the 700 ft or so hill that we live on. The only other vehicles that I saw out were large 4wd with chains, and at work I overheard poeple saying that they were sliding around in their cars even with chains on, which I assumed was due to using cable chains on a light vehicle. I think this is about as bad as it gets :^)
3. Around here chains may be required for certain roads or passes, regardless of vehicle or tires, an dit's enforced by state patrol.
4. Chains actually make sense to carry for off road non-winter conditions too, but I usually don't carry them for that.
Chains are fashionable, but sometimes it's the ONLY way you'll be bale to get around.
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I've never used them on normal public roadways - highway or otherwise.
Note: If you got 'em, chain up the rear only unless you have a lift kit / get them tight / and travel maximum 35 mph on stock tires - there's limited room for slap. Running oversize tires further limits clearance to mudflaps and fenders. If you put them on the front, they'll rip off your fenders as soon as you turn the steering wheel. One of our newbies found this out the hard way.
Dually chains?
What are you dually guys running for chains? Do you run the chains made for duals, or just run single tire chains? If singles, do you put it on the inner, or outer tire? Any problems rubbing between tires?
Thanks
Steve
Thanks
Steve
Great commentary guys. So I'm hearing that it isn't crazy to think that I might need them, since we'll be travelling some of the less travelled passes. Also, that you only use them on the rear. Lastly, are the cable style useless, and I should stick with the regular link? What about the diamond pattern I'm seeing out there?
I carry a set all winter, and I have a 4x4. Tirechains.com is a great place to get them. For a dually, all you need are a set of singles if you are going to be on the road.
I don't see 4x4 in your rig, so you might want to get a steering chain for one wheel up front.
I don't see 4x4 in your rig, so you might want to get a steering chain for one wheel up front.
dang i just realized that the pair I bought last year and never used will now not fit because of the new tire/wheel combo.
thanks for jogging the memory. I'll give to my buddy with a completely stock
03 with auto.
thanks for jogging the memory. I'll give to my buddy with a completely stock
03 with auto.
On DRW's, I'd just run singles on the outside tire - unless you were going to be in deeper mud, then on both. For pickups, I run a "v-bar" cross member. Anything larger, like OTR trucks, run "trigs" - they are stronger and have a slightly longer spike. IMHO, cable chains are useless. Someone mentioned a steering chain - I'd avoid if possible - there doesn't appear to be any more clearance in the wheel than a Ford Superduty and I've actually witnessed chains ripping the fenders off a truck from one of our newbies - I had to do the incident investigation in fact - I'll try to locate a pic although I believe I no longer have it - new laptop for work and it was in the old one.







