Do you happen to have any more info on this Valet unit, maybe a website or a model number?? I like the fact it has the capability of delaying the crank procedure to let the grid heaters do their job.

 

I inquired at the dealer I bought mine from and the mechanic wasn't too keen on the idea of installing the remote start on a Cummins. Though he didn't say it, his face really looked like he had never tried it and wasn't sure if it would work. Did one of you say you DO have the Mopar kit installed and it works well? I assume the Mopar kit doesn't preheat?

 

Will these systems work with a 6spd?

 

I have the Valet 559 remote start and alram system. It is made by a company called Directed Electronics Inc. They make a lot of major brands you'll find in stores. The Viper 791 system is the same thing.

I bought my remote start on the internet and I think it cost me about $250 for everything I needed. That included the system itself with, a two way remote which gives you the status of the alarm and whether or not the vehicle is running, the delay module because, the Cr engines don't have a wait to start wire to tap into, and the key bypass module. The key bypass does not bypass the grey security key and there is no key left in the vehicle. The module just learns the key code and is only activated when the remote start is on. When the alarm is locked or unlocked the factory security key system still works the same.

I first bought the Mopar remote start system but I learned that I would have to carry two remotes because the factory remote for keyless entry would not operate the RS and the RS remote would not operate the door locks. Brilliant design by Dodge engineers.

The Dodge system is much easier to install than the aftermarket one. It took me at least 8 hours to figure it all out.

I would visit this site and search the forums for all the info you'll ever need about Remote start systems

www.the12volt.com

 

Most of them, mine included have a wait to start feature that allows the grid heaters do their job. I love mine.

Hondo

 

Almost any remote start system has the ability to wait for the glow plugs or grid heater in our case to warm up, either with internal programing or voltage input. On the newer Rams you'd need one with an internal timer or a pulse time relay to tell the remote start to wait for the grid to warm up, sounds expensive but they arent. Also the Sentry key is easily bypassed during remote start with a module that acts as a factory key, when the truck isn't remote started it turns off so your OEM antitheft key is still completely functional. The Mopar starts are simply a basic Code Alarm remote start in a Mopar box with a nicely prepped wire harness, the Mopar start will wait for the grid heater with internal programming. The Mopar unit is simple to install so if your a do it yourselfer and want to try a remote start pay the extra $$, lose a few of the aftermarket options, carry 2 remotes, and buy the Mopar unit. You should have it installed in an hour tops, the instructions are great. If you like bells and whistles, want the truck to run more than 15 minutes and only want to carry one remote for keyless and remote start that you need to go aftermarket. If you don't have some experience with remote start installs you probably shouldn't make a newer Ram your first victim!

 

I can attest to not making a new Ram your first remote start install . You need to diode isolate the door trigger wires and uses another special relay for the door locks as well. It was much more difficult than I thought and I have better than average electrical diagnostic skills. An aftermarket electronics installer job is not one I want to do every day. It was all worth it though because the system is very nice.

I also know that I did a better job with all the wiring and connections than a kid at Best Buy would do.

 

Remote start on a manual is illegal.

One thing I have heard bad about remote starts like what is needed for ours is there is a key in the dash module. Break in and take the key to drive away.

 

It isn't illegal to put a remote start in your vehicle if it's a manual, it is illegal to not be in control of the vehicle so your OK as long as it doesn't hit something or someone. And yes they usually do end up hitting something or someone.
Also you can put a key in for the remote start but there are modules which imitate the key without actually having a key in the truck so nobody can just grab it and take the truck. Only Rams with Gray keys and the newer key with the built in keyless entry need to have the sentry key bypassed.

 

I had my remote start enabled for a couple of weeks and had to turn it off. I refuse to park in neutral on inclines and I'm just too worried about it starting and killing itself or someone. There are no laws against having them on manuals, contrary to popular opinion. Several shops in town tried to tell me it was but they couldn't tell what law it was or even if it was a state or local law.

The one thing that would solve this problems is if the $#@%^#@ car makers would still include neutral safety switches like they used too. My 1990 Mitsubishi pickup had one as did most cars around that time but for some reason (probably idiot federal laws) new cars don't have neutral safety switches. Without one it is pretty much impossible for the alarm to know neutral.

 

Most cars have N saftey switches, it's just a matter of finding them. They use them for cruisse control so if the vehicle is taken out of gear the cruise shuts off.

 

Sound Waves in the Philadelphia area does remote starters on manual transmission vehicles. Not sure if they've ever done a diesel. They set it up so that you shut off the engine after getting out of the vehicle. If any door is opened, the remote starter won't work. Simple, safe and legal.

 

My truck came with one that the dealer installed. It's and ultra start. It works wonderful for those cold -30 below moringings. It turns on then waits for a little bit to let the grid heaters run then starts. The wait to start light goes out about 5 seconds before it starts. It also has a turbo timer on it. I can hit a button and it will run for 2 min after i turn it off then it shuts off.

 

That's what I had and I'm gonna get another one .

 

Ok, here it is. I am an authorized DEI dealer. So straight from the horses mouth it came. All of the DEI products are basically the same as far as remote starts are concerned(viper, python, clifford matrix and valet), I use them all. The sentry key can be bypassed temporarilly by using the 555cw part number from DEI. You will not have to break the key open or give up your key. This unit will act as a sentry key, fulling you computer into thinking that there is a key in the ignition.


DIRECTWIRE™ WIRING INFORMATION - DODGE / RAM PICKUP / 2005 / Remote Start



12volts red (40A), red (40A) + ignition harness
Starter yellow + ignition harness
Second Starter N/A
Ignition pink/white + ignition harness
Second Ignition pink/lt. green + ignition harness
Third Ignition pink/yellow (10 AWG)(3rd acc) + ignition harness
Notes: This wire is not required for remote start. It only provides power to the power window circuit.
Accessory dk. blue and pink/yel (16 AWG) + ignition harness
Second Accessory pink/yellow (14 AWG) + ignition harness
Keysense purple/tan - ignition harness
Power Lock purple/dk. green - driver kick, door harness
Notes: Lock is negative trigger thru an 820 ohm resistor. Unlock is negative trigger thru a 330 ohm resistor. MUST use relays.

Can also use Directed 457C or 456L interface modules.
Power Unlock same as power lock wire
Lock Motor lt. green 5wi driver kick, door harness
Unlock Motor tan/lt. green 5wi driver kick, door harness
Parking Lights+ white/yel (L), white/gray (R) + harness at top of driver fender
Parking Lights- white/lt. green - headlight switch
Notes: Parking lights are negative trigger thru a 590 ohm resistor. MUST use a relay.
Hazards white/orange - hazard switch
Notes: Hazards are negative trigger thru a 120 ohm resistor. MUST use a relay.
Turn Signal(L) use hazards wire
Turn Signal(R) use hazards wire
Reverse Light white/lt. green + inside mirror or plug by PCM
Notes: The PCM is on the passenger side firewall.
Door Trigger see notes - see notes
Notes: The driver door trigger is purple and the driver side rear door is purple/orange. These wires are in the driver kick panel. The passenger door trigger is purple/white and the passenger side rear door is purple/yellow. These wires are in the passenger kick panel. Use all four wires and diode isolate each. See DirectFax document 1076 for wiring information.
Dome Supervision yellow/lt. blue or yellow/org + driver A pillar or cluster
Trunk/Hatch Pin N/A
Hood Pin N/A
Trunk/Hatch Release N/A
Power Sliding Door N/A
Factory Alarm Arm purple/lt. blue - driver kick, door harness
Notes: This will also do door locks. Arm/lock is negative trigger thru a 644 ohm resistor. Disarm/unlock is negative trigger thru a 1565 ohm resistor. Single pulse will do disarm without unlocking the doors. Unlock requires a double pulse. MUST use relays.

Can also use Directed 457C or 456L interface modules.
Factory Alarm Disarm same as factory alarm arm wire
Disarm No Unlock see factory alarm disarm
Tachometer dk. blue/gray ac PCM, orange plug, pin 34
Notes: The PCM is on the passenger side firewall.

On SRT-10 models, the tach wire is in the black plug, pin 18.

On diesel models, the tach wire is at the ECM on the lower driver side of the engine, 60 pin plug, pin 24, or at the camshaft position sensor just left of the ECM, in a 3 pin plug.

On gas models, can also go to any ignition coil or fuel injector and use the wire that is NOT brown/white.
Wait to start see DirectFax document 1091
Brake Wire white/tan + brake pedal switch
Parking Brake dk. green/white - parking brake switch
Horn Trigger dk. green/purple - horn switch
Memory Seat 1 N/A
Memory Seat 2 N/A
Memory Seat 3 N/A
Interface Module: Category:
Immobilizer Bypass Required:
Yes Type:
Sentry Key
Part #: 555CW
Alternate Part1 #: 556UW
Alternate Part2 #: 555U
Alternate Part3 #: DesignTech 20402
Alternate Part4 #: DesignTech 29402
Notes: Only vehicles with gray keys have the immobilizer.
Interface Module: Category:
Door Lock Interface Required:
Yes Type:
Data Bus
Part #: 457CW
Alternate Part1 #: 456LW
Notes:


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