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Old May 1, 2006 | 01:02 PM
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Possibly going to 3rd gen

Hey guys, I'm thinking about selling the truck and upgrading to a new 3rd gen. I keep having to repair my truck and is becoming very costly. While looking online, I noticed that some dealers are selling diesels real cheap right now, like 30-32000.

Anyways, I was wondering what kind of gas mileage i could expect from an '06, is it compatible with burned biodiesel (think its called SVO?), and are there any problems with CP3 like VP44 and lift pumps? Oh and has steering wobble been fixed. Hopefully this all makes sense.

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Old May 1, 2006 | 03:38 PM
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the new commonrail isnt getting quite the milage an old 12v but some guys are getting some good milage. Its iffy though. Some are getting 13mpg and some 20+ sorta hit or miss. I bought my 06 SLT 4x4 qc auto for $30,500.

The new trucks will burn biodiesel without a problem, but a WVO (waste vegetable oil) setup is different. Bio is made to burn in an existing fuel system just like diesel. WVO is basically where you pump dirty vegetable oil out of a grease trap at a resteraunt and filter it onboard. It does ahve to be heated though, so the system includes heaters and stuff...
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Old May 1, 2006 | 04:30 PM
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I'm getting about 18 mpg of diesel fuel on mostly highway driving. Most folks playing with biodiesel aren't going over 50% on the common rail setups. Still plenty to learn about that. SVO is straight vegetable oil, and requires a dedicated, heated tank. They start the engine on diesel, switch over when the oil gets hot enough, and switch back before they're ready to shut down. At 35000 miles, I've had no pump problems yet, and don't expect any. Also no steering problems that I'm aware of.
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Old May 1, 2006 | 07:52 PM
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ok i'm kind of confused now. I thought there was a biodiesel process that required cooking and washing that required no modification to the truck. But both replays say that svo and wvo require a heated tank. The reason i'm asking this is because i plan on running bio here soon and wouldn't worry so much on gas mileage if i could run straight biodiesel. I put on way to many miles and make way to little to pay for these gas prices...

thanks for the help guys
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Old May 1, 2006 | 08:16 PM
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ok i'm kind of confused now. I thought there was a biodiesel process that required cooking and washing that required no modification to the truck. But both replays say that svo and wvo require a heated tank. The reason i'm asking this is because i plan on running bio here soon and wouldn't worry so much on gas mileage if i could run straight biodiesel. I put on way to many miles and make way to little to pay for these gas prices...

thanks for the help guys
you are correct

biodiesel is different from WVO and SVO. Bio is washed and titrated and runs in the existing system. SVO/WVO is straight oil, no additives no nothing. You could run straight vegetable oil from the grocery store with a WVO/SVO setup.

You can run 100% bio if you want to. The downside is cold winters you need to mix it with dinodiesel so the oil doesnt gel up. Like oil, when you put it in the fridge, it becomes a solid. Biodiesel isnt much of a savings if you buy it from a station. You will probably save around $.10/gal. If you make it yourself, you have to factor in the effort to make it, the equipment and what not. Doing it yourself it a PITA picking up oil, finding suppliers for oil on a regular basis and the equipment to collect the oil and pump it back into your processor. You want seperate tanks for that, dont mix the WVO into your tank (regular tank or auxillary) because its dirty
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Old May 1, 2006 | 08:22 PM
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If your planning on running your new 06 on more than 5% bio.....say goodbye to your warranty!!!! just something to think about.
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Old May 1, 2006 | 09:34 PM
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If your planning on running your new 06 on more than 5% bio.....say goodbye to your warranty!!!! just something to think about.
really?? never heard that.
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Old May 1, 2006 | 09:45 PM
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Good Plan to try to get something going this year. I have heard rumors that 07's are going to be spendy besides who wants to buy 1st year vehicle?
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Old May 2, 2006 | 01:35 AM
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if my warrenty is void after running biodiesel, then I might as well keep my old truck and spend the money in repairing steering and transmission. I might ask the local dodge dealership and see if they would still cover me under warrenty if i ran biodiesel...
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