Muffler? I don't need no stinking muffler!
Muffler? I don't need no stinking muffler!
I took the muffler off today. Like everyone says, the muffler is a bear to get off. I used a dremel and three cuttoff wheels to slit the sides of the muffler pipe, then pealed them up / down and got the dang anchor to fall on my hand and nearly smash it flat. Note: Watch out for falling muffler!! The hangers are a pain for sure, and are your biggest ememy. I had to push pull curse and fight with it before I figured out the rear most hangar was the one causing all the trouble. Once I adjust that one, it came off ok. Putting the new pipe on took some more hangar manipulation, but it was a lot easier than the anchor removal. Once I got it all clamped down and the hangar on, I took it for a spin. I like the sound a lot. It sounds like a Freightliner when you want it too, but just adds a low rumble under normal driving. It did have a NASTY drone at first, everywhere. I loosened the hangar and moved it to a more comfortable looser position then clamped it down TIGHT. I also torqued the band clamps down TIGHT with an impact. The drone is now gone, and the sound is incredible. My buddy just bought a stainless 5 inch complete, so when he gets that on I'm curious who's will sound better.
Highly recommend it (Genos eliminator kit, with 4 inch stepped band clamps from the local International shop).
Highly recommend it (Genos eliminator kit, with 4 inch stepped band clamps from the local International shop).
It only comes withe the pipe and the hangar. I think it says to reuse the factory clamps, but mine were rusted so badly I had to use an impact to get the nuts off the threads, or I would have been fighting with a rachet for 10 minutes. The impact worked hard all the way to the end of the threads. I got two band clamps from the local big truck shop that cost me $25 for the pair.
I left my cat on, so it's really not very loud unless you give it some go pedal.
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but still own the cat. Turns out I could settle for a bit less sound, and I am wondering what happens if I just put in the cat again. Is it worth the effort?
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I'd like to get rid of the muffler, too, but am scared of the drone, especially on long road trips w/ the TT behind me. Does it drone when pulling a trailer? I also wonder if it would be any louder than it is now w/ the Donaldson 40"?
I haven't towed with it yet, so I'm not sure about the drone while towing issue. I will tell you that it is not noticable at 65 - 70 mph on the highway. You really can't hear it at all, it sounds like it did with the muffler at those speeds. I have read many times that the cat quiets it down significantly, that's why I left mine on.
That was the first thing I did to my truck the week I got it. I had a straight pipe put in and I left the cat but I had horrible drone. I havnt heard any straight pipes yet with no drone. I still have my cat with my 5" Bully Dog Exhaust and its pretty loud still. With out the cat was unbearable. The cat deffinetly quiets down the straight pipes.
No I had a horrible drone with the straight pipe and my cat still in. I drove 1700 miles in day and a half and grew to hate the straight pipe at 80-85. With the bully dog exhaust I had alot of drone with not cat. But that lasted about two days and it went right back in the shop and I had the cat put into the 5" System. The cat does help with the drone though atleast IMO.
I haven't towed with it yet, so I'm not sure about the drone while towing issue. I will tell you that it is not noticable at 65 - 70 mph on the highway. You really can't hear it at all, it sounds like it did with the muffler at those speeds. I have read many times that the cat quiets it down significantly, that's why I left mine on.


