South if that's any better.

 

Where do you think Toyo and Nitto tires are made?

I think nearly all the tires in 285/70/17 that are E rated, are made overseas.

 

mine are stamped china

 

Yep, just went out and shecked mine.
It is stamped, "Made in China for Imperalistic American Pigs"

 

Does anyone know if Cooper makes their tires here in the States? I know that they list Findlay, OH as their headquarters. Maybe we should be buying Cooper? I know that Cooper makes several other brands like Mickey Thompson, Dick Cepek, Mastercraft, etc. Does anyone know anything about Pro-Comp? Maybe Cooper makes the tires for Pro-Comp? I just bought aftermarket wheels. I had an easy choice when I found that Eagle was about the only wheel manufacturer still making wheels in the states.

 

Yes, cooper light truck tires are made in the US as well as a lot of their car tires. There is a plant in Arkansas actually. They do manufacture many other brands also including Pro-Comp and Mastercraft. They are a very good tire. Look at the Cooper Discoverer S/T. It is halfway between an A/T and an M/T. Excellent siping and deep tread. (2 32nds deeper than BFG AT KO). They wear well also. I always got at least 40k out of mine and they still had tread left. The Mastercraft Courser C/T is similar to the Cooper S/T but has a little bit more tread void. I like the Cooper version better.

 

BTW Cooper's Discoverer ATR would be the equivalant to the Hankook ATM RF10. I know people who have run that tire with great success. 50k mile tire.

 

No way my ATR's will last that long, plus they're crap, read my post above.
2 flats in a few months, both times I was told the tire needs replacing, what's with that?

 

Maybe they are coming out of a different plant than ours.. I use to sell them. They had some quality issues when they first came out but they have been resolved. I'm not saying they will last 50k, but they are rated for that.

 

When I had the flat in May I bought 2 new ones for the back so I had a spare the same size. In October when I had the 2nd flat it was on one of the new tires and it also had to be replaced...
... maybe it's my fault for not buying 10 plies, but the sidewalls shouldn't be shot in the time it takes to pull over after getting a flat, twice!

 

Don't know what to say. Did you check the DOT date code on the tires? I would have been on the phone with Cooper asking W T F if I were your dealer.

 

Been running Hankook MT03's since I had 2 miles on my truck. 1st set was 315/70/17 and pulled them off at 26K with tread still on it. Would have gotten more miles if rotated more often and not run a programmer.

2nd set which I have on now are the 37x12.50/17 MT03's and I have 26K on them and going to pull them off next week because of 1 tire cupped almost all the way down due to programmer, front end alignment out and lack of tire rotation. The other 3 have 5K still left on them, but I have a new set of the same 37x12.50 MT03's setting in the shop to go on it.

The tires run really well on dry and wet pavement. Never had them in ice, mud, or snow.

Final thoughts; Even though I abuse the tires by lack of rotating and having the programmer on for harder acceleration, getting 26K out of a set is impressive. Someone else driving could probably get 35K+ out of a set. And best of all my 37's I bought last week only cost me $230 a piece. You can't find a 37x12.50/17 10ply mud tire that is rated for 4,000# each under $300 per tire.

 

Do these tires hold up towing heavy, like a 13k 5er.

 

My buddy runs 315/70/17 MT03's on his '06 Cummins and he pulls my dozer every now and then when he borrows it. Dozer weighs 17K and trailer weighs 5,500# so he is grossing about 29,000# and they have held up just fine.

Also he has almost 30K on his tires and about to pull them off. He neglects his tires worse then I do and they still lasted that long.

 

I'd be upset if I spent over $1000 on tires and was lucky to get 25k.
I guess thats why I pay a little extra for good tires BFG/Michelin and easily get 80-100k out of them.