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Old Jan 16, 2008 | 04:53 PM
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Antifreeze in tires- Questions

I have some new Dick Cepek FCIIs in 35x12.5 and even though they are balanced out to 0 on a regular balancer (non road force) I still get some vibrations at approx 60-70mph. If I was to add some antifreez into the tires to help counteract this how much should I use? Ive read everything from 5-20 oz. What do you guys think????? The only roadforce balancer in my area isnt working right now or I would go that route.
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Old Jan 16, 2008 | 04:55 PM
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What are you driving a Tractor? :P
Leave the Antifreeze at the farm.
http://www.innovativebalancing.com/
Makes a balancing product to go inside the tires.
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Old Jan 16, 2008 | 07:41 PM
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Antifreeze will do exaclty the same thing as the beads and I already have some. So why spend money I dont need to??????????
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Old Jan 16, 2008 | 11:33 PM
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Because antifreeze isn't meant to be sloshing around in your tires???

I use the balancing beads. Work well. Made specifically for your situation.

I can think of a few reasons not to use antifreeze, but most important that comes to mind is hot/cold spots on your tire. Don't know how running a tire with antifreeze centrifigually sitting in one particular spot inside your tire will affect tire wear and the like. JMHO.
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Old Jan 17, 2008 | 07:45 AM
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Originally Posted by welndmn
What are you driving a Tractor? :P
Leave the Antifreeze at the farm.
http://www.innovativebalancing.com/
Makes a balancing product to go inside the tires.

I agree, its not like this stuff is hundreds of dollars.
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Old Jan 17, 2008 | 08:47 AM
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Antifreeze will do exaclty the same thing as the beads and I already have some. So why spend money I dont need to??????????
We run water in many of our 4x4 comp rigs, and water rots the tires/wheels out.
If you want to be even cheaper, Run some Air soft beads.
Those work well.
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Old Jan 17, 2008 | 09:00 AM
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The good thing about the balancing beads is that they are made to be perfectly round and ceramic. No moisture issues.
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Old Jan 17, 2008 | 09:24 AM
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Syndicate,

I agree with you on the antifreeze.......it should be a cheap solution to your problem. It appears as though some don't understand that it works the same as the beads and it will distribute itself evenly just like the beads, counteracting an imbalance problem.

The answer to how much to add lies in how much imbalance you think you have and you should go by weight, not volume. 8 ounces (in weight) seems to me it would be enough, that would be 1/2 a pound. Not sure how that would convert to ounces.

Water I believe is 62.4 pounds per ft^3, which equates to .065 pounds per ounce. If antifreeze is close to the same weight you would need about 8 ounces for half a pound.

As a side note, I have heard of some using BB's and others using golf ***** to balance tires. The problem with the BB's is that if they are just regular steel they can rust and create a mess. The golf ***** I've heard of being used was like 2 or 3 for each mud tire, problem here is you only have 3 weights rolling around to balance the tire.

Water is not the same as antifreeze. Antifreeze is made to be compatible with rubber, think about the coolant hoses. Most antifreeze is also compatible with all metals, so you shouldn't have any corrosion or rubber deterioration.

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Old Jan 17, 2008 | 09:32 AM
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Dang walexa...... That right there is a smart fella!
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Old Jan 17, 2008 | 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by walexa

Water is not the same as antifreeze. Antifreeze is made to be compatible with rubber, think about the coolant hoses. Most antifreeze is also compatible with all metals, so you shouldn't have any corrosion or rubber deterioration.

Waylan
Yes, and Radiator hoses also rot out after time.
I am just saying for a street driven truck, I think their are better options. Our tractor has antifreeze in tires, but it only goes 5mph.
I think in high speed starts and stops, the Coolant would get abravise and wear the tire down.
On my 4x4. I run Airsoft beads. The BB's rust.
Golf ***** also work (most run 6-8 on a 38+ tire) but you can hear a golf ball rolling around.

For measurment, check out that site I posted. They have a chart giving you how much weight of what ever you want to run inside a tire.
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Old Jan 17, 2008 | 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by welndmn
Yes, and Radiator hoses also rot out after time.
I am just saying for a street driven truck, I think their are better options. Our tractor has antifreeze in tires, but it only goes 5mph.
I think in high speed starts and stops, the Coolant would get abravise and wear the tire down.
On my 4x4. I run Airsoft beads. The BB's rust.
Golf ***** also work (most run 6-8 on a 38+ tire) but you can hear a golf ball rolling around.

For measurment, check out that site I posted. They have a chart giving you how much weight of what ever you want to run inside a tire.
My truck is a 98, over 200K on the clock, still the same lower radiator hose. I changed the upper one a while back because it was easy to get to, not because it was leaking. The coolant probably has conditioners in it that extend the life of the hoses.

As far as a street driven truck, I tried the Innovative Balancing beads and wasn't impressed with them. Now I use a set of balance masters that use liquid merury.......they are definitely better than the beads.

The tractor has antifreeze in the tires for additional weight for better traction, not for balancing, not really related to this post.

The only down side to using any antifreeze in a tire is that it can be messy when changing tires. The beads do the same thing though.......they fall out and roll everywhere. Antifreeze won't corrode the rim or wear the tire out.

If it makes you feel better to spend more on something that does the same thing then more power to you.........it's what I did. But for function and price I think the antifreeze is fine to use.

Waylan
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Old Jan 17, 2008 | 02:39 PM
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Dont use golf ***** in tires, they beat the inside of the tire up too much. Not that big of a deal on our small tires, but on big truck tires, the tire is so far gone from the golf ***** that they cant be recapped.

There is also a product called Equal that is like sand that you put in the tires, it works pretty good.

Ill probably get reamed for saying this but, what happens when you get a hole in your tire and the antifreeze leaks out?
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Old Jan 17, 2008 | 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by spitfire9137
Ill probably get reamed for saying this but, what happens when you get a hole in your tire and the antifreeze leaks out?
Same thing as all the air leaking out.........add more?
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Old Jan 17, 2008 | 02:47 PM
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I think you missed the point, but I will leave it at that.
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Old Jan 17, 2008 | 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by spitfire9137
I think you missed the point, but I will leave it at that.
If you plugged it and aired it up you would have to drive on an unbalanced tire until you got to put more antifreeze in it. Is that what you meant?

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