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Old Dec 21, 2010 | 04:06 PM
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AC Compressor Clutch Relay

Can someone inform me where the AC Compressor Clutch relay is physically on the 2007 5.9 cummins?
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Old Dec 21, 2010 | 04:24 PM
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There isn't a relay like you are used to... It is controlled by the TIPM. The same box that has the fuses in it.
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Old Dec 21, 2010 | 05:04 PM
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Well crap no relay. I was really hoping it had a relay, even the napa store said it had a relay from looking what they had documented on their computers. I have my wiring diagram here and have checked both fuses for the AC system, both look good. When I press the switch for the AC in the cab my AC compressor will engage 3 separate times very briefly. Then it the compressor stays shut off completely.

When I jump out the compressor it works like a champ. So I thought it was just the button of the whole electronics panel in the cab. Well I pulled the panel out of my truck and put it in my buddies, and the panel worked just fine. I have also replaced the pressure switch on the compressor and have tested the temp. switch on the coils.

My freon levels are good. When I put a gauge on the system I had 100lbs on each side w/ the compressor off. Can someone help me out w/ this.
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Old Dec 22, 2010 | 10:08 AM
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Well, most times you are going to have a bad evaporator temp sensor. If you find a scanner that will pull HVAC codes I'm sure you will find a related code stored.
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Old Dec 22, 2010 | 07:08 PM
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Yeah I thought it might be the evaporator temp sensor. So I took it out and put it in another pickup of the same model, and their AC system still worked. Wouldn't that be a good way to see if the evap. temp sensor worked?

Where might I find a scanner that can pull HVAC codes? I went to autozone and they tried to pull any codes, but it did not throw any. I think they only scan the motor and drive train sensors. Thanks
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Old Dec 23, 2010 | 10:51 AM
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Yeah I thought it might be the evaporator temp sensor. So I took it out and put it in another pickup of the same model, and their AC system still worked. Wouldn't that be a good way to see if the evap. temp sensor worked?

Where might I find a scanner that can pull HVAC codes? I went to autozone and they tried to pull any codes, but it did not throw any. I think they only scan the motor and drive train sensors. Thanks
You will have to pay some diag time at a shop if you don't have a buddy with a good scanner.

Edit: Are you sure you pulled the right sensor? The one inside the HVAC housing....
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Old Dec 24, 2010 | 02:49 PM
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Well not 100%. I pulled a white plastic thing that had wire two wires on the end of it. The plastic was molded like an L. I thought there would just be one sensor in there. If not please let me know and I will look again.
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Old Dec 24, 2010 | 03:39 PM
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The evap temp sensor is a probe stuck in the fins of the evap core.
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Old Dec 24, 2010 | 03:44 PM
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Ok I am still not sure if I removed the right thing. I took the glove box off and then pulled the plastic probe thing and stuck it in another pickup. Is there more to the procedure to pull the evap. temp sensor.
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Old Dec 24, 2010 | 03:50 PM
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Very much... The hvac box needs to be removed from the truck in order to replace the sensor.
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Old Dec 24, 2010 | 03:53 PM
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This picture of a mercedes evap. temp sensor is very similar to what the part looked like that I pulled. Let me know if you can if I pulled the right sensor.

http://www.autohausaz.com/search/pro...erm=2108300772
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Old Dec 24, 2010 | 04:02 PM
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Well thanks for the info. Before I go replacing the sensor sense there is so much work to get to the switch, is there a test procedure that I can see if this sensor is in proper working order. Also do you have any idea what I may have pulled out?
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Old Dec 25, 2010 | 09:45 PM
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I'm sure there is a test for it... I probably won't be able to look it up until after the new year though.
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Old Dec 25, 2010 | 10:00 PM
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That is fine. It is pretty cold here so the AC is not a big concern at this point, but I would like to get it working before it becomes an issue.

Were you able to look at the link that has a picture of the evap. temp sensor for the mercedes? That looks exactly what I took out behind the glove box. I thought for sure it was the evap. temp sensor.
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Old Dec 26, 2010 | 08:51 AM
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I looked at it. I have not seen one of those before but the latest truck I have had that problem with was an 06. I'll go look at my truck later and take a few pics of what I find.
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