Well ladies and gentlemen, you can rest assured Dodge has done itself proud with the new brakes and ABS all wheel system.<br><br>Last night at about 55MPH after dark a deer came down off the bank to visit in the middle of my lane. Full panic stop and steered around it to the left with no problem. Actually, woulda gone around it but got stopped in the left lane prior to having to go around it.<br><br>In case you don't know I learned this in some pursuit driving classes a few years ago.<br><br>We had newer Chevy Caprices with ABS. You would come into a &quot;barrier&quot; at 55MPH then be told at the very last second to go left or right and stop in a dead end alley (all cones) You had to apply full ABS lock up, you DO NOT skid, you STOP, and YOU CAN STEER FULLY whilst locked up.<br><br>Most folks do not realize that you can still fully steer with full ABS lock up.<br><br>And, with the Dodge 2003, I have never felt a full lock up so smooth, there is not that &quot;chatter&quot; like on the old systems when the braking computer is locking and releasing to keep you outta a skid. This is very smooth and probably the best controlled panic stop I have ever done.<br><br>Oh, this was on a wet rainy road, asphalt type construction<br><br>I like these new monsters more each day<br><br>Thought I would pass on some braking thoughts in case you were not fully aware of the all wheel ABS system our vehicles come to.<br><br>Happy Hunter and Undented Daisy ;D<br><br>

 

[quote author=Hunter link=board=17;threadid=6956;start=0#65788 date=1037125383]<br>Well ladies and gentlemen, you can rest assured Dodge has done itself proud with the new brakes and ABS all wheel system.<br><br>Last night at about 55MPH after dark a deer came down off the bank to visit in the middle of my lane. Full panic stop and steered around it to the left with no problem. Actually, woulda gone around it but got stopped in the left lane prior to having to go around it.<br><br><br>In case you don't know I learned this in some pursuit driving classes a few years ago.<br><br>We had newer Chevy Caprices with ABS. You would come into a &quot;barrier&quot; at 55MPH then be told at the very last second to go left or right and stop in a dead end alley (all cones) You had to apply full ABS lock up, you DO NOT skid, you STOP, and YOU CAN STEER FULLY whilst locked up.<br><br>Most folks do not realize that you can still fully steer with full ABS lock up.<br><br>And, with the Dodge 2003, I have never felt a full lock up so smooth, there is not that &quot;chatter&quot; like on the old systems when the braking computer is locking and releasing to keep you outta a skid. This is very smooth and probably the best controlled panic stop I have ever done.<br><br>Oh, this was on a wet rainy road, asphalt type construction<br><br>I like these new monsters more each day<br><br>Thought I would pass on some braking thoughts in case you were not fully aware of the all wheel ABS system our vehicles come to.<br><br>Happy Hunter and Undented Daisy ;D<br><br><br>[/quote]<br>Just wondered ---but did you guys (LIKE) that system on gravel roads? ( the caprice was nice, ...cept for seats.... but on gravel , could get to be a handful ) <br>

 

Hunter...Stop telling these driving stories....my baby is sick in the shop...your making me :'( :'( :'(!!!!<br><br>We thought you would like to find out how tough the front grill was on these babies!!<br><br>Take care<br><br>Wantabee

 

Hunter,<br> Glad to hear you did not hurt your baby ;D Every ABS I have ever had did that stuttering thing when you hit them hard. It would be interesting you see how DC is actualy implementing the ABS to make it that smooth. Latter,<br>The Boss Hog<br>

 

Duelin<br><br>Never did have to do a panic stop on a gravel road. Not sure on that one, but on ice...no problem at all, no sideways slip, steer where you want to go fully locked. And I don't know if the Caprice had all 4 wheel ABS. But for sure, it had front disc and rear drum.<br><br>The Dodge has 17&quot; disc front and rear, and ABS all wheels.<br><br>Boss, the &quot;stutter&quot; is not in the girl, not even!<br><br>The Caprice had that stutter (it is the only ABS I have locked up besides Daisy Dodge) and Daisy has no stutter. Either they have improved the ABS, it is the 17&quot; brakes or the combo of all disc. Anyway, they got it right!<br><br>Sending message #2 re. lock up short short.<br><br>Hunter

 

You folks are not gonna believe this. But, I hope they do not come in 3's <br><br>We were on our way to the Coast today, on a County road between two state highways, a short cut, and yes, I was late and moving out.<br><br>Came around a curve on wet, rainy, leaf filled road and a tiny, and I do mean tiny gray car crept up the top of this ridge on a driveway to my right. Moving like, hmmm, 5 MPH?<br><br>Anyway, figured they were gonna stop at the top of the gravel drive, the car did not slow, and I saw no &quot;driver recognition&quot; that would be eye contact checking me out coming from her left. Knew immediately it was a problem and went into FULL panic stop mode. I locked up ABS, went around her to her rear passenger door in the wrong lane, Shih Tzu boys smashed their heads on back of our seats, wife screamed, Daisy handled it just fine, and I could not find the horn until she was like 15' away! Put my fist in it and she looked around to the left, for the very first time, an old gray haired lady.<br><br>Ok, to make matters worse, this is a pretty small laned road and she tore off like a bat outta heck! I had a kinda tough time keeping up with her, as she obviously lives on that drive and knows the local roads. Wanted to tell her how close she came to dead today. But, no luck.<br><br>After about 3 miles we got to a major highway, she went on the left Y and I went on the right Y toward the coast. A big rig was coming from her right, and she sat at the stop sign. I was just opening my mouth to tell wife &quot;at least she looks one way&quot; and she pulled out in front of a big rig 80,000# boy. He had to slow way down and she putts off. This would be after sitting at the stop sign for like 15 seconds as he bears down on her.<br><br>The lady is not long on this earth.<br> <br>#1. If I had not been driving Daisy and the brakes were not so awesome. She would have been T boned and knocked into a canyon beyond.<br><br>#2. My wife said it, not me &quot;Thank God you still know how to drive&quot; and my reply was, &quot;That was the luckiest women on earth, my reflexes are not all that good any longer&quot; <br><br>But, I guess they were today.<br><br>So, Thank God, Thank Dodge, and Thank Hunter in that order we don't have a fatality in Northern Oregon today.<br><br>I am almost afraid to find out if these things come in 3's<br><br>Some of you may not think these 2 things happened to me within 24 hours and I am working for Dodge, totally the opposite is true. They happend, I will give credit where it is do and man, I really did not have to change shorts! Still got some of the &quot;good stuff&quot; left I guess, for some grand kids grammy is still alive.<br><br>Hunter<br><br>

 

Hunter,<br> WOW Two in such a short time has to make you nervous just going out in public! I live in SE Florida so this is a everyday occurance for us, especialy in the winter. Only here, they will make eye contact and still pull out in front of you Makes for some exciting motorcycle riding. Take care,<br>The Boss Hog<br>

 

Hunter:<br><br>Make sure your rig has full insurance...the way things are going...it looks like you may need it <br><br>Take care<br><br>Wantabee

 

??? Hunter, Sounds like granny is operating with a sub-conscious death wish. Could be she is having one Senior Moment after another while behind the wheel. She won't last long at the rate she is going. ??? &quot;A near miss is as good as a Mile.&quot;

 

CBS Evening News tonite (Thursday, 11-14) has a feature on Old People behind the wheel, should they or shouldn't they be driving.<br><br>(Not practicing any self promotion, but since I HAVE to watch it, others might as well GET to watch it)<br><br><br>phox

 

How old is &quot;OLD&quot;? <br><br>Old?Bob

 

Being retired isn't what qualifies you as old. Neither is drawing a pension or living off of investments. I would say the Old Person is one who thinks the tax payers of this country owe them a decent living without working. They sit there all day complaining about what they don't have, vegetating in front of their TV watching stupid shows. Their minds are mush and never have an original thought.

 

Now you've done it. You told the world about me, and I told you to keep it a secret. :P<br><br>MushHeadBob

 

Ah shucks, Bob. Didn't mean to give away any secrets bout us.
Carrying an AARP Card doesn't make you old. I knew of a couple of young? ladies in their mid forties carried cards, in their mid-forties. They told all the the guys they were in their thirties, but pulled out that AARP card whenever they could to get their 10% off.

Where's Gonzo, thought he would have chimed in bout now? Few weeks back someone, can't remember who called him &quot;an Old ____.&quot; Had to defend him.

 

Gonzo? I heard that about him too. I think he has gone to the other side.