3rd Gen High Performance and Accessories (6.7L Only) Talk about Dodge/Cummins aftermarket products for third generation trucks here. Can include high-performance mods, or general accessories. THIS IS FOR THE 6.7L ONLY!

Emissions Friendly Tuner?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Feb 10, 2011 | 02:13 PM
  #1  
xjrev10's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 26
Likes: 0
From: Eveleth, MN
Emissions Friendly Tuner?

Anybody recommend a tuner for a STOCK 08 6.7? Emission system friendly?
Reply
Old Feb 10, 2011 | 03:11 PM
  #2  
mega-engr's Avatar
"California Style"
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
 
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 1,698
Likes: 13
From: So Cal
Smarty, but I also suggest you delete the emmission for when you need them which is not on a daily basis unless you are paranoid.
Reply
Old Feb 10, 2011 | 04:49 PM
  #3  
xjrev10's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 26
Likes: 0
From: Eveleth, MN
not paranoid, just dont want to deal with it. local diesel shop told me today that he could get a 15k fine for doing the deletes on my truck, and also there is news that emissions testing coming back to MN in the near future..
Reply
Old Feb 10, 2011 | 05:26 PM
  #4  
Purplezr2's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 1,290
Likes: 0
From: MN
Originally Posted by xjrev10
not paranoid, just dont want to deal with it. local diesel shop told me today that he could get a 15k fine for doing the deletes on my truck, and also there is news that emissions testing coming back to MN in the near future..
That would really suck
Reply
Old Feb 10, 2011 | 06:43 PM
  #5  
AH64ID's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 4,737
Likes: 4
From: Kuna, Idaho
Stock is the way to leave it if your wanting to keep your emissions equipment. The extra fuel will cause the DPF to work harder, which will cause more regen's and worse fuel economy. You also could cause the DPF to fail if you tune it and leave the DPF on there.

So I would either tune and delete or leave it stock, 100% stock.
Reply
Old Feb 10, 2011 | 10:37 PM
  #6  
xjrev10's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 26
Likes: 0
From: Eveleth, MN
Okay. Could you guys recommend some upgrades I could do to a stock truck? I'm thinking I'm limited to cold air intake and larger exhaust...which is fine I guess.
Reply
Old Feb 10, 2011 | 10:52 PM
  #7  
Brian08Q35004x4's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 339
Likes: 0
From: This Nazi state of California 2nd home Gilbert AZ under God
Originally Posted by xjrev10
Okay. Could you guys recommend some upgrades I could do to a stock truck? I'm thinking I'm limited to cold air intake and larger exhaust...which is fine I guess.
No need to upgrade the exhaust if not doing a full delete the cat and DPF are still the limiting diameter.
Reply
Old Feb 10, 2011 | 11:05 PM
  #8  
AH64ID's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 4,737
Likes: 4
From: Kuna, Idaho
Originally Posted by xjrev10
Okay. Could you guys recommend some upgrades I could do to a stock truck? I'm thinking I'm limited to cold air intake and larger exhaust...which is fine I guess.
You won't see any performance incerase out of it, nor mileage. There isn't much point to do anything to a stock truck, they breath as good as they can.

The only thing that may be a benefit would be a grid heater relocate. If you put the grid heater before the EGR inlet it does 2 things, 1 is flow better and 2 is won't get caked up with soot and block more flow.

Something like these two..

http://www.glacierdieselpower.com/pr..._id=07510-ABIP

http://www.glacierdieselpower.com/pr...d=07510-MF-TVH
Otherwise if you want to do anything look into fuel and oil filtration.
Reply
Old Feb 11, 2011 | 01:08 AM
  #9  
xjrev10's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 26
Likes: 0
From: Eveleth, MN
So a FASS 150/150 and a amsoil bypass system would be some worthwhile upgrades in this case?
Reply
Old Feb 11, 2011 | 07:27 AM
  #10  
Blake Clark's Avatar
Administrator / Severe Concussion Aficionado
 
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 5,491
Likes: 15
From: Home: Kaplan, LA - Pipelining In: Pecos, Tx
If you are not going to delete, leave it stock and work it hard.
Reply
Old Feb 11, 2011 | 10:11 AM
  #11  
AH64ID's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 4,737
Likes: 4
From: Kuna, Idaho
Originally Posted by xjrev10
So a FASS 150/150 and a amsoil bypass system would be some worthwhile upgrades in this case?
I would do a FASS Platinum into the OE canister, and the Amsoil bypass.
Reply
Old Feb 11, 2011 | 10:16 AM
  #12  
klx650a2's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 1,801
Likes: 1
From: Saskaberia, SK
Like Blake said, if its stock, work it hard and often. I had some issues with not working it hard and that stupid dpf plugged up ALL the time. Now, after some emissions "adjustments", the DPF does not plug up at all, maybe its because its sitting in my basement?
Reply
Old Feb 11, 2011 | 11:24 AM
  #13  
Lil Dog's Avatar
Chapter President
 
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 6,102
Likes: 2
From: Red Deer, Alberta Canada
Originally Posted by AH64ID
Stock is the way to leave it if your wanting to keep your emissions equipment. The extra fuel will cause the DPF to work harder, which will cause more regen's and worse fuel economy. You also could cause the DPF to fail if you tune it and leave the DPF on there.

So I would either tune and delete or leave it stock, 100% stock.
Not necessarily true.. The Stock program for the Smarty disables the EGR system which is about 50% of the soot produced under low load, idle situations and regenning of the first Oxidation Cat. That and advancing the timing will actually produce less soot (less DPF contamination) and should even out for power vs. soot produced. I saw no increase in the amount of regens with the Smarty on stock exhaust vs. without the smarty.

I have seen a truck with just the DPF removed and when the EGR is working, the soot out of the pipe is ridiculous. It looks clean on the outside, but inside its pure soot. With my Blacktec I rarely get any visible soot even on the SW5 setting.
Reply
Old Feb 11, 2011 | 12:33 PM
  #14  
AH64ID's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 4,737
Likes: 4
From: Kuna, Idaho
Originally Posted by Lil Dog
Not necessarily true.. The Stock program for the Smarty disables the EGR system which is about 50% of the soot produced under low load, idle situations and regenning of the first Oxidation Cat. That and advancing the timing will actually produce less soot (less DPF contamination) and should even out for power vs. soot produced. I saw no increase in the amount of regens with the Smarty on stock exhaust vs. without the smarty.

I have seen a truck with just the DPF removed and when the EGR is working, the soot out of the pipe is ridiculous. It looks clean on the outside, but inside its pure soot. With my Blacktec I rarely get any visible soot even on the SW5 setting.
Interesting.

I don't know how it is on the 6.7 since the pistons are differnt, but the more timing I run the more soot that gets into my oil.

But if you can shut off the EGR on a stock tune I don't see that as being bad. But if the timing drops the EGT's too much I still think you will have more active regens as the DPF will have a very hard time going into passive regen (which really won't happen anyway's unless you are towing up a hill all the time).
Reply
Old Feb 11, 2011 | 03:03 PM
  #15  
xjrev10's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 26
Likes: 0
From: Eveleth, MN
Originally Posted by Blake Clark
If you are not going to delete, leave it stock and work it hard.
Yep plan too. This truck is not my DD but do occationally drive it to work which is a 10 mile trip. Its main purpose is the long haul travel vehicle and a tow rig for my Jeeps.

Originally Posted by AH64ID
I would do a FASS Platinum into the OE canister, and the Amsoil bypass.
This is exactly what I was thinking. Any reliablility concerns with the FASS at all?
Reply



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:53 PM.