dpf delete help
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Plug your smarty into the obd port on your truck, or a usb port on your pc. it will power up and show the software version that's installed.
The egr actuator motor must be removed and the plunger taken out, but the motor must remain plugged in. The throttle valve must be disconnected.
Those are the two biggest things overlooked with a Smarty delete. Check and see if they're done.
The egr actuator motor must be removed and the plunger taken out, but the motor must remain plugged in. The throttle valve must be disconnected.
Those are the two biggest things overlooked with a Smarty delete. Check and see if they're done.
#17
Thanks Dan, I have those files. I used the SJ67V606B_DRM01E.smt file. I got it off the filefactory files.
The oil pressue gauge moves slightly when I turn the key on, but not above the red line. But the truck does have oil. Would this be something that would prevent it from starting, but remember it doesn't even click click click when I turn the key. After I put in the new crankcase filter and air filter today. I think I am going to have to breakdown and take it to the shop. . I will let you all know what happens.
The oil pressue gauge moves slightly when I turn the key on, but not above the red line. But the truck does have oil. Would this be something that would prevent it from starting, but remember it doesn't even click click click when I turn the key. After I put in the new crankcase filter and air filter today. I think I am going to have to breakdown and take it to the shop. . I will let you all know what happens.
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You have the right file so I would try and reload the tune from the smarty.
As for the no start, I'm pretty sure its the ecm not letting it start, but I don't know why.
You did remove the egr motor and keep it plugged in right?
Also unplugged the cooler servo and throttle valve per the delete instructions?
Weird...
One more thing, put the batteries on a charger before you load the tune. Low battery voltage has caused loading errors and strange codes/ problems in the past.
As for the no start, I'm pretty sure its the ecm not letting it start, but I don't know why.
You did remove the egr motor and keep it plugged in right?
Also unplugged the cooler servo and throttle valve per the delete instructions?
Weird...
One more thing, put the batteries on a charger before you load the tune. Low battery voltage has caused loading errors and strange codes/ problems in the past.
#19
I did try reloading it.
But I did not do the egr yet, I didn't think I had to do it yet. And I thought this was just the dpf delete download. Someone else said I didn't have to do it at the same time.Is that wrong? It seemed the only problem I was having for a week was Cat full would come on the ovhd when I would get on the accelerator. About it not starting I am worried that either because it was very cold or for what ever other reason, maybe the ecm, the oil pressure gauge wasn't registering oil pressure even though the truck has oil. And with the loud knocking and then the truck shutting itself off. I didn't drive it this was just sitting in the driveway.
I really appreciate your help. Annette
But I did not do the egr yet, I didn't think I had to do it yet. And I thought this was just the dpf delete download. Someone else said I didn't have to do it at the same time.Is that wrong? It seemed the only problem I was having for a week was Cat full would come on the ovhd when I would get on the accelerator. About it not starting I am worried that either because it was very cold or for what ever other reason, maybe the ecm, the oil pressure gauge wasn't registering oil pressure even though the truck has oil. And with the loud knocking and then the truck shutting itself off. I didn't drive it this was just sitting in the driveway.
I really appreciate your help. Annette
#20
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The program deletes the dpf and disables the egr system. You need to follow the mads delete instructions and unplug the throttle valve, unplug the egr cooler servo, pull the egr valve motor, remove the plunger and remount it to the valve or zip tie it out of the way. I ike remounting it as its cleaner and it has to stay plugged in.
When you're ready to delete the egr system, that's when you leave it plugged in and zip tied out of the way.
Do all this, return it to stock, clearcodes and reload the program and seewhat happens.
Sorry I can't help you with the cold temps/oil pressure problem. I haven't any experience below freezing with a diesel.
Keep us updated
When you're ready to delete the egr system, that's when you leave it plugged in and zip tied out of the way.
Do all this, return it to stock, clearcodes and reload the program and seewhat happens.
Sorry I can't help you with the cold temps/oil pressure problem. I haven't any experience below freezing with a diesel.
Keep us updated
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I could see how this would give the system a problem if the egr is disabled but still intact. Thanks for letting me know. I really appreciate your help. I will update.
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As someone stated make sure that your batteries are fully charged if they are not this will cause all sorts of weird electrical issues such as inaccurate gage readings and codes to occur. I just replaced both of my batteries due to one discharging incorrectly and I was getting incorrect ambient air temps along with other message errors on the OHD. They were load checked and one battery was falling.
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Thanks Dan, I have those files. I used the SJ67V606B_DRM01E.smt file. I got it off the filefactory files.
The oil pressue gauge moves slightly when I turn the key on, but not above the red line. But the truck does have oil. Would this be something that would prevent it from starting, but remember it doesn't even click click click when I turn the key. After I put in the new crankcase filter and air filter today. I think I am going to have to breakdown and take it to the shop. . I will let you all know what happens.
The oil pressue gauge moves slightly when I turn the key on, but not above the red line. But the truck does have oil. Would this be something that would prevent it from starting, but remember it doesn't even click click click when I turn the key. After I put in the new crankcase filter and air filter today. I think I am going to have to breakdown and take it to the shop. . I will let you all know what happens.
#25
Thanks Mopar72, I have tried the 28ME that was the first one I tried. Then Charlie on filefactory and the smarty people at Mads said the DRM was the latest version. The guy at Mads was trying to help me with the Cat full message and gave me some options. I changed my crankcase filter today. But the problem right now is my truck will do nothing. I have a mechanic looking at it to see if there really an oil pressure problem, that caused the loud knocking and caused the truck to turn itself off in the driveway, never drove it. I appreciate your offer to help, wish you were closer. I'm in Colorado. And thanks for your Service to this country.
The guy at Mads suggested it could be a relief valve spring that is causing the Cat full. Has anyone heard of that? Couldn't find much on that.
The guy at Mads suggested it could be a relief valve spring that is causing the Cat full. Has anyone heard of that? Couldn't find much on that.
#27
No it is not fixed. I finally gave up on it and took it to a shop. It sat there for 2 weeks and nothing was done. So I am bringing it back home tomorrow and a friend that is a diesel mechanic that happens to not be working right now is going to help me at least poke around on it and see what the problem is. I am going to start with cycling the key 3 times and see if there are any codes that weren't on the smarty and then I am going to disconnect the neg. battery cables and let it set. Listen if the starter tries to engage at all when the key is turned. Drop the oil pan and see if there are any clues and try to manually crank the engine, not in exact order. I tried pushing down on the trip odo. and turning the key on. All the gages went through their steps and worked even the oil pressure gauge worked I got some number across the screen on that but I have no clue what they mean. They are not the regular looking ecm codes. Do they mean anything and how would I find out what they are?
Thank you for checking on me. I am pretty frustrated with this. So wish me luck. I will update soon.
Thank you for checking on me. I am pretty frustrated with this. So wish me luck. I will update soon.
#28
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You also can try removing the tune and return it back to the stock tune. This should remove any abnormalities with the me tune. You can keep the deletes for a short time while you troubleshoot the truck. If you run it you will gets some codes, cat full message and limp mode but it eliminates the me tune as a cause and will clear when you fix the problem and load the me tune.
And not to step on any toes here but try posting what you've done, codes, messages and the oil pressure/no start condition on the cumminsforum.com under 3rd gen high performance mods and see what they have to say.
Just a good opportunity to get more eyes on the problem.
And make sure you've followed the mads instructions to the T and reload the tune before you do the battery trick. This way the ecm is reset with a good software load from the start. And don't forget to put a charger on the batteries prior to loading a tune.
Hope you find the problem soon.
And not to step on any toes here but try posting what you've done, codes, messages and the oil pressure/no start condition on the cumminsforum.com under 3rd gen high performance mods and see what they have to say.
Just a good opportunity to get more eyes on the problem.
And make sure you've followed the mads instructions to the T and reload the tune before you do the battery trick. This way the ecm is reset with a good software load from the start. And don't forget to put a charger on the batteries prior to loading a tune.
Hope you find the problem soon.
#30
My truck is still down. I have a question, Is it possible to crank these engines by hand? And if you can get it to move 3 or 4 inches in either direction is that about all you can expect to move it by hand? Someone helping me said my engine is seized. But the diesel mechanics deployed with my husband said there is no way you would be able to crank it anymore than that by hand anyways. Anyone every been able to do it?
So I know my starter is bad, going to change that out. Just wondering about the engine.
Wondering if it was my oil sending unit that failed. And about the oil pressure safty switch. Once the question of the engine is answered then these are the things I am going to get help with.
Any advice about these things?
So I know my starter is bad, going to change that out. Just wondering about the engine.
Wondering if it was my oil sending unit that failed. And about the oil pressure safty switch. Once the question of the engine is answered then these are the things I am going to get help with.
Any advice about these things?