Thinking of buying an edge j/a and just wanted to know if stacking w/ something else is necessary and what exactly would be gained from this?

also curious if the stock 48re will handle the edge j/a and for how long? also what else would be a concern, egts, fuel press, boost? thanks.

 

read my posts on my blown motor. don't stack anything that adds more timing. i don't know what the various boxes do but do some homework because too much timing equals blown motors

 

Your stock 48re wont last too long with the juice,, depending on how you drive it. But if you stack, say like I do with a diablosport, it wont last very long at all

Kevin

 

mine stock tranny is holding up fine....but i dont get on it that much....i jsut do alot of lugging and taking off hard at lights...everyonce i na while. it almsot always on level 5 tho......you can stack a pressure box with it but then you tranny will go fast!!!!

 

thanks for the help, but i guess what im trying to figure out is why stack anything in the first place. what is the benifit from stacking? is the edge j/a great by itself or will it need something else to work w/ it?

i plan on adressing the 48re issue before i make much power over stock. im planning on going w/ a rebuilt trans from goerand. afterwards my goal is to have a reliable truck to use for work mon. through fri. towing around 5k lbs. and then taking it to the track once and a while and turning up the power. i would like to be able to run mid to high 13 sec. et's at the track eventually. i guess im just trying to figure out the best way to reach my goal starting w/ basic upgrades now that i will also be able to use later on when making more power.

also, what is the main differences between products like edge j/a, edge ez, bd power pup/tripple dog, smarty, quadzilla, powerpuck, and others. im fairly new to diesel performance and trying to get an idea of exactly what these products do and how they work.

 

the benfit of stacking with another box is more overall power, unless it is just a pressure box then you will see a inprovement in your low-end power. The differnce in the different performance enhancers is whether they are a chip or downloader and how they make their power.(ie. timming/durration, timming duraton/presseue, etc.) get the juice for now and then after some trans work upgrade to the hot juice then stack it with a pressure box like the edge ez,quad xzt, or mp-8 and you should have what your looking for.

 

thank you, that is what i was looking for. what is the "hot" juice? and also the edge ez only ingreases fuel pressure which will get me more low end performance, correct? so im guessing that the edge j/a doesnt increase pressure at all. how will the stock injectors hold up to increased fuel pressure from the ez? and what type of power and et's are possible on the stock injectors, fuel system and turbo?

 

The hot juice is when you send the module back to edge and they soup it up for you. I think that you have to sign a waiver saying that when you smoke your otherwise stock truck, don't blame them. I have it, and it is mean. My tranny cannot handle it on anything over 3. Just keep it on 3 till you get a built tranny and some twins. I love mine.

 

First, what year is your truck? That makes a difference.

 

Yes it does matter if it is for a 305 or a 325 engine. On the 305, I would not stack anything, as it already does some added fuel pressure.

On the 325 (04.5 and Up) a low end pressure box like EZ or XZT(Pressure only) will help low end and mid range. On the 1-3 Juice levels if you have standard defueling and protection levels set the stock tc/trans will hold up without any problems. On the higher settings you need some common sense and right foot control.

Juice/Attitude does not seem to stack well with the Smarty, it did work with the BD Triple Dog, but way too much power for stock tc/trans or turbo.

 

thanks for all the help. sorry my sig is not filled out. i have an 06' 2500 cc 4x4. all i have done so far was gut out the intake and delete the muffler, which sounds WAY better than i thought it would.

this is my work truck and like i said i am new to diesel performance so i havent started making any mods yet. i want to learn a good bit first before wasting money or breaking things (like the 48re).

i know where to go to beef up the trans, but im curious how to make enough power safely and reliably to run the et's im looking for. i would like to stay w/ the stock turbo, fuel system and injectors if possible. im planing on going w/ an afe stg 2 intake and an aftermarket 4" ss exhaust system. would aftermarket intake and exhaust manifold such as the ats units be benificial if im planing on keeping the stock turbo? also what is the danger in keeping the stock turbo and making as much power as possible w/ it?

another question i have is about the cat. i know alot of guys get rid of it, but i have heard some guys say that you need some backpressure for the turbo to operate properly. anyone know about that?

getting back to programers, etc. what is the difference between the edge j/a and the smarty? i have heard good things about both, but im not sure exactly what each one does. and if i add a pressure box how will the stock injectors handle it?

im sorry to ask so many questions all at once, im trying to learn as much as possible.

 

Don't forget extra fuel too... I would think stacking w/ the edge would probably be best/safest to do a FASS or Walbro...IMHO... But then again, I've seen quite a few people on here running the stacks w/ edge without... I just wouldn't want to pay the consequences of pump failure

 

so it sounds like if im planning on keeping the stock fuel system it would definately be more reliable not to stack or add any fuel pressure. that will limit the power obviously.

so beefing up the trans, adding something like the edge j/a, and increasing air flow (intake, exhaust, manifolds), without upgrading turbo or fuel system, what would be a safe estimate of power output and track et's?

 

I have a walbro f/p, I would not add any performance parts with out good gauges and a pusher pump. If that is your work truck, I would only go with air and exaust upgrades, an aftermarket fuel pump, gauges, and at the most, a towing/economy module. Don't play with it if you depend on it, or it makes your money.

Definatly have gauges before you add anything else.

 

With just AFE Stage I air intake, high flow muffler and Juice/Attitude I dyno'd around 370rwhp, right at 100rwhp over stock. With stock tc/trans and just the mods stated I ran in 2wd with low boost launches, ETs were in the 15.5s-15.6s range on BFG 315s.

With beefed up tc/trans 4wd launches will do better than that.