Using Quadzilla boost fooler with Edge Attitude W/ Juice?
04-23-2007, 10:11 PM
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Using Quadzilla boost fooler with Edge Attitude W/ Juice?
Hello everyone, I've been tooling around here for the last week, and I have to say this site is AWESOME! Can you use the Quadzilla boost fooler with the Edge Juice. The reason I ask is I have a chance to get a used boost fooler for free. From what I have read the Edge all ready does this function, so would the boost fooler do anything at all?
04-23-2007, 11:23 PM
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Hello everyone, I've been tooling around here for the last week, and I have to say this site is AWESOME! Can you use the Quadzilla boost fooler with the Edge Juice. The reason I ask is I have a chance to get a used boost fooler for free. From what I have read the Edge all ready does this function, so would the boost fooler do anything at all?
04-24-2007, 12:06 AM
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Well, like you said the Edge does its own boost fooling and normally I would not go out and tell you to buy one.......
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We have had several dealers installing them with the Juice modules. They install them first instead of last like normal and they say it makes the Juice a LOT smoother and the trucks seem to run better?
Might be worth a try since it is free?
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We have had several dealers installing them with the Juice modules. They install them first instead of last like normal and they say it makes the Juice a LOT smoother and the trucks seem to run better?
Might be worth a try since it is free?
04-24-2007, 12:13 AM
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Well, like you said the Edge does its own boost fooling and normally I would not go out and tell you to buy one.......
BUT
We have had several dealers installing them with the Juice modules. They install them first instead of last like normal and they say it makes the Juice a LOT smoother and the trucks seem to run better?
Might be worth a try since it is free?
BUT
We have had several dealers installing them with the Juice modules. They install them first instead of last like normal and they say it makes the Juice a LOT smoother and the trucks seem to run better?
Might be worth a try since it is free?
Wish i had both of those laying around this week....i would love to see how it goes
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Well, like you said the Edge does its own boost fooling and normally I would not go out and tell you to buy one.......
BUT
We have had several dealers installing them with the Juice modules. They install them first instead of last like normal and they say it makes the Juice a LOT smoother and the trucks seem to run better?
Might be worth a try since it is free?
BUT
We have had several dealers installing them with the Juice modules. They install them first instead of last like normal and they say it makes the Juice a LOT smoother and the trucks seem to run better?
Might be worth a try since it is free?
So, if I am reading you right Quad, I would hook the Boost Fooler up first to the engine sensor, and then the attitude into the connector receptacle coming off the Boost Fooler Module?
I have also gone through the many posts about how the BDDL does not work with the BF at times. On some trucks, no issues, on others, into limp mode. Will have to wait and see on that one.
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How well does the Juice work off of a fooled boost signal? Is the Attitude accurate at that point for max boost and backdown features?
jtharrisjr, you are running timing on top of timing with the Juice and the BDTD? You are playing with disaster if you ask me. Or did you mean you have the EZ and not the Juice?
jtharrisjr, you are running timing on top of timing with the Juice and the BDTD? You are playing with disaster if you ask me. Or did you mean you have the EZ and not the Juice?
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How well does the Juice work off of a fooled boost signal? Is the Attitude accurate at that point for max boost and backdown features?
jtharrisjr, you are running timing on top of timing with the Juice and the BDTD? You are playing with disaster if you ask me. Or did you mean you have the EZ and not the Juice?
jtharrisjr, you are running timing on top of timing with the Juice and the BDTD? You are playing with disaster if you ask me. Or did you mean you have the EZ and not the Juice?
As for running all three mods, I have been running the Edge Juice and the BDDL until I recently got the BF. I believe there are other members that have run these two together, so far no issues, no timing rattle...some run the BDDL at Tow, and adjust the EDGE at will. I am now running performance on the BDDL and keeping the Edge at the 0,1, and somtimes 2. I have used 3 at times with no timing rattle. I am considering dumping the Edge when Quad adds a turbo cool down feature to his Commander, at that point, I will probably run BDDL, a Quad box and Commander. Always a but, but, I have been following the Quad and Diablo stacktoo...
05-24-2007, 04:17 PM
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I never imagined those two working together. I know the Juice is pretty aggressive with timing and I thought the combo would be killing head gaskets and valves but if it works it works.
I've been watching the Diablo as well. I wish it did more creature things like high idle, tire size calculation, etc.
One more question...why does your Attitude "top out at 32 PSI"? Is that because that's what the fooled number from the Quad BF is outputting?
I've been watching the Diablo as well. I wish it did more creature things like high idle, tire size calculation, etc.
One more question...why does your Attitude "top out at 32 PSI"? Is that because that's what the fooled number from the Quad BF is outputting?
05-24-2007, 04:58 PM
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*disclaimer*
The info I am about to give is my opinion based on my observations. Results can and will vary and to make a 100% accurate decision we will need info direct from engineers at Edge.
Ok, here is what I have observed. The Juice actually fuels harder at lower boost levels and as the boost levels rise they actually fuel less. SO with a boost fooler in front of it we actually keep it fueling by it not thinking it is making full boost yet.
The other thing is that our boost fooler uses some high impedance amplifiers and we smooth the incoming boost signal. I believe this is easier on the Juice since the fueling is based primarily on boost numbers. With smoother inputs it has smoother outputs.
Also, the Edge boxes I have tested with do very little with timing. That is probably why they stack so well.
The info I am about to give is my opinion based on my observations. Results can and will vary and to make a 100% accurate decision we will need info direct from engineers at Edge.
Ok, here is what I have observed. The Juice actually fuels harder at lower boost levels and as the boost levels rise they actually fuel less. SO with a boost fooler in front of it we actually keep it fueling by it not thinking it is making full boost yet.
The other thing is that our boost fooler uses some high impedance amplifiers and we smooth the incoming boost signal. I believe this is easier on the Juice since the fueling is based primarily on boost numbers. With smoother inputs it has smoother outputs.
Also, the Edge boxes I have tested with do very little with timing. That is probably why they stack so well.
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Qzilla, Thanks for coming up with the Boost Fooler, to paraphrase...we don't make a lot on this product, but it was an area that could use some help, and your expertise shines again. Thanks for the great product!
Could you PM me on any future upgrades and time lines planned for the Commander? I have some overtime coming up at work, and like most people, I need to do some budgeting...Thanks in advance.
Could you PM me on any future upgrades and time lines planned for the Commander? I have some overtime coming up at work, and like most people, I need to do some budgeting...Thanks in advance.
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I never imagined those two working together. I know the Juice is pretty aggressive with timing and I thought the combo would be killing head gaskets and valves but if it works it works.
I've been watching the Diablo as well. I wish it did more creature things like high idle, tire size calculation, etc.
One more question...why does your Attitude "top out at 32 PSI"? Is that because that's what the fooled number from the Quad BF is outputting?
I've been watching the Diablo as well. I wish it did more creature things like high idle, tire size calculation, etc.
One more question...why does your Attitude "top out at 32 PSI"? Is that because that's what the fooled number from the Quad BF is outputting?
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I have a Quad BF haven't used it yet because I thought that my Edge did boost fooling itself. I also have an Mp-8 and I do know that it fools the Edge boost numbers. Were in this mess does the Quad plug in for best results or would it not really change anything?