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I've probably run as many if not more power adders than most guys and here is my $.02 on the ones I've run,... stick around,... Reader's Digest Version.
Diablo DL: Probably the most steetable DL on extreme. One weird thing,.. on my truck at wot if you let off the throttle it still maintains high speed for a few seconds b-4 throttling down. Manageable, but be careful.
BDDL & CLDL: BDDL is ok but the CLDL is much better. Very good power and MPG even over BDDL. Like the other more powerful DLers, ... it's a bit too throttle sensitive.
EZ & Juice w/att & Hot Juice: EZ is great as an add-on to almost anything. Juice & EZ is an outstanding stack if you don't want to upgrade your turbo. You'll still need tranny mods. Very smooth and good EGTS. Hot Juice,... more is better. Very good power and smooth. Like Juice, it stacks well especially with the ez.
PPE HOT: This is a very strong unit. It runs as well as anything I have had by itself. Will stack outstanding with the TST if you get user adj timing feature for your TST. Like CLDL,.. throttle sensitive. Also this is stronger than the CLDL.
SMARTY: Also very strong. It's right there with the PPE HOT for performance. Both give me great performance by themselves all the way through the rpm range. Some say down low power and no top end,... NOT! I guess you need more air or fuel because this thing pulls on top excellent on my truck.
TST: I have the multi-program R-49 (Includes standard, '05 twins and ,'03 wins. It also has user adj timing. The very newest version has an EZ-like fueling built right in and may be the Mecca of all units,... haven't ran that particular model. But the R-49 stacked with the PPE HOT or SMARTY plus the EZ is simply outstanding. It's like putting your life on Fast Forward.
Hope this will help some trying to make a decision. Just remember the success and positive or negative opinions expressed by members are a direct result of their impressions on their trucks and are heavily based on their personal upgrades that MUST accompany these units listed above.
Diablo DL: Probably the most steetable DL on extreme. One weird thing,.. on my truck at wot if you let off the throttle it still maintains high speed for a few seconds b-4 throttling down. Manageable, but be careful.
BDDL & CLDL: BDDL is ok but the CLDL is much better. Very good power and MPG even over BDDL. Like the other more powerful DLers, ... it's a bit too throttle sensitive.
EZ & Juice w/att & Hot Juice: EZ is great as an add-on to almost anything. Juice & EZ is an outstanding stack if you don't want to upgrade your turbo. You'll still need tranny mods. Very smooth and good EGTS. Hot Juice,... more is better. Very good power and smooth. Like Juice, it stacks well especially with the ez.
PPE HOT: This is a very strong unit. It runs as well as anything I have had by itself. Will stack outstanding with the TST if you get user adj timing feature for your TST. Like CLDL,.. throttle sensitive. Also this is stronger than the CLDL.
SMARTY: Also very strong. It's right there with the PPE HOT for performance. Both give me great performance by themselves all the way through the rpm range. Some say down low power and no top end,... NOT! I guess you need more air or fuel because this thing pulls on top excellent on my truck.
TST: I have the multi-program R-49 (Includes standard, '05 twins and ,'03 wins. It also has user adj timing. The very newest version has an EZ-like fueling built right in and may be the Mecca of all units,... haven't ran that particular model. But the R-49 stacked with the PPE HOT or SMARTY plus the EZ is simply outstanding. It's like putting your life on Fast Forward.
Hope this will help some trying to make a decision. Just remember the success and positive or negative opinions expressed by members are a direct result of their impressions on their trucks and are heavily based on their personal upgrades that MUST accompany these units listed above.
Is the dialbo that strong on 03 6 speed HO truck.
I looked through my 4-wheel parts mag, and they list the triple dog crazy larry as 140HP and 205 TQ. Then they list the extreme power pup at 130HP and 250TQ, is that right?
I know the crazy larry doesn't give as much HP as on a 04.5 and above but does it fuel harder but only gives 10 more HP??
I looked through my 4-wheel parts mag, and they list the triple dog crazy larry as 140HP and 205 TQ. Then they list the extreme power pup at 130HP and 250TQ, is that right?
I know the crazy larry doesn't give as much HP as on a 04.5 and above but does it fuel harder but only gives 10 more HP??
The power pup is different programs that drive differently with different power than the Triple Dog. What that company called Crazy Larry on the Triple Dog is nothing more than the Extreme version of the Triple Dog.
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Ok how much does the Edge Hot juice give on the 03 early 04s??
I would like to be close to 400HP at the rear wheels or the factory turbo if possible.
If I'm 10 15HP on the low side that want bother me, I just like to be around 400 but really 375 at the rears would make me happy, for a while.
I would like to be close to 400HP at the rear wheels or the factory turbo if possible.
If I'm 10 15HP on the low side that want bother me, I just like to be around 400 but really 375 at the rears would make me happy, for a while.
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Ok how much does the Edge Hot juice give on the 03 early 04s??
I would like to be close to 400HP at the rear wheels or the factory turbo if possible.
If I'm 10 15HP on the low side that want bother me, I just like to be around 400 but really 375 at the rears would make me happy, for a while.
I would like to be close to 400HP at the rear wheels or the factory turbo if possible.
If I'm 10 15HP on the low side that want bother me, I just like to be around 400 but really 375 at the rears would make me happy, for a while.
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I've probably run as many if not more power adders than most guys and here is my $.02 on the ones I've run,... stick around,... Reader's Digest Version.
Diablo DL: Probably the most steetable DL on extreme. One weird thing,.. on my truck at wot if you let off the throttle it still maintains high speed for a few seconds b-4 throttling down. Manageable, but be careful.
BDDL & CLDL: BDDL is ok but the CLDL is much better. Very good power and MPG even over BDDL. Like the other more powerful DLers, ... it's a bit too throttle sensitive.
EZ & Juice w/att & Hot Juice: EZ is great as an add-on to almost anything. Juice & EZ is an outstanding stack if you don't want to upgrade your turbo. You'll still need tranny mods. Very smooth and good EGTS. Hot Juice,... more is better. Very good power and smooth. Like Juice, it stacks well especially with the ez.
PPE HOT: This is a very strong unit. It runs as well as anything I have had by itself. Will stack outstanding with the TST if you get user adj timing feature for your TST. Like CLDL,.. throttle sensitive. Also this is stronger than the CLDL.
SMARTY: Also very strong. It's right there with the PPE HOT for performance. Both give me great performance by themselves all the way through the rpm range. Some say down low power and no top end,... NOT! I guess you need more air or fuel because this thing pulls on top excellent on my truck.
TST: I have the multi-program R-49 (Includes standard, '05 twins and ,'03 wins. It also has user adj timing. The very newest version has an EZ-like fueling built right in and may be the Mecca of all units,... haven't ran that particular model. But the R-49 stacked with the PPE HOT or SMARTY plus the EZ is simply outstanding. It's like putting your life on Fast Forward.
Hope this will help some trying to make a decision. Just remember the success and positive or negative opinions expressed by members are a direct result of their impressions on their trucks and are heavily based on their personal upgrades that MUST accompany these units listed above.
Diablo DL: Probably the most steetable DL on extreme. One weird thing,.. on my truck at wot if you let off the throttle it still maintains high speed for a few seconds b-4 throttling down. Manageable, but be careful.
BDDL & CLDL: BDDL is ok but the CLDL is much better. Very good power and MPG even over BDDL. Like the other more powerful DLers, ... it's a bit too throttle sensitive.
EZ & Juice w/att & Hot Juice: EZ is great as an add-on to almost anything. Juice & EZ is an outstanding stack if you don't want to upgrade your turbo. You'll still need tranny mods. Very smooth and good EGTS. Hot Juice,... more is better. Very good power and smooth. Like Juice, it stacks well especially with the ez.
PPE HOT: This is a very strong unit. It runs as well as anything I have had by itself. Will stack outstanding with the TST if you get user adj timing feature for your TST. Like CLDL,.. throttle sensitive. Also this is stronger than the CLDL.
SMARTY: Also very strong. It's right there with the PPE HOT for performance. Both give me great performance by themselves all the way through the rpm range. Some say down low power and no top end,... NOT! I guess you need more air or fuel because this thing pulls on top excellent on my truck.
TST: I have the multi-program R-49 (Includes standard, '05 twins and ,'03 wins. It also has user adj timing. The very newest version has an EZ-like fueling built right in and may be the Mecca of all units,... haven't ran that particular model. But the R-49 stacked with the PPE HOT or SMARTY plus the EZ is simply outstanding. It's like putting your life on Fast Forward.
Hope this will help some trying to make a decision. Just remember the success and positive or negative opinions expressed by members are a direct result of their impressions on their trucks and are heavily based on their personal upgrades that MUST accompany these units listed above.
. Done an awful lot to that beast , how about some dyno #'s ?
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Can a factory turbo on a 03 6 speed handle the hot juice??
I've got to go look/buy the truck tuesday and I'm just lookin for things to do.
Cold air
Straight piped exhaust
One style power adder
Good clutch
Thats all I will do to this truck other than wheels and tires. It won't be a race truck, a pull truck, or a tow truck (might pull a couple of 4-wheelers ever now and then).
I've got to go look/buy the truck tuesday and I'm just lookin for things to do.
Cold air
Straight piped exhaust
One style power adder
Good clutch
Thats all I will do to this truck other than wheels and tires. It won't be a race truck, a pull truck, or a tow truck (might pull a couple of 4-wheelers ever now and then).
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I don't mind high egts as long as they are controlable and not hittin 1500 in like 3 seconds.
I mean I won't be on level 6 all the time, probably very little and as far as racin, the only racin I will do just playin with my buddies, nothin serious.
Do you think it would be better to run the hot juice or run just the plan juice and EZ stack??
Which as more bottom end, the hot juice of the juice/ez stack?
I don't need to go 120 just get to like 60 fast.
O, the clutch will go in before I buy the chip, done been down that road.
I mean I won't be on level 6 all the time, probably very little and as far as racin, the only racin I will do just playin with my buddies, nothin serious.
Do you think it would be better to run the hot juice or run just the plan juice and EZ stack??
Which as more bottom end, the hot juice of the juice/ez stack?
I don't need to go 120 just get to like 60 fast.
O, the clutch will go in before I buy the chip, done been down that road.
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