Which turbo... again..?
02-13-2007, 01:05 PM
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If you will waite till next week I hope to have a SPS on by sometime next week. I can let you know how it does. If brock can answer my above questions, and the Silver 62 spool up isnt much differant than the SPS66, it may help you make a decision. If I was buyin a new turbo it would be an SB but I am gettin one used.
02-13-2007, 01:27 PM
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Doesn't brock work for II? If so, I appreciate his honesty on other brands. What's the big advantages between the Silver62 and the Special B?
02-13-2007, 02:13 PM
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I am waiting until sometime in March (b-day), so I'll be listening for your feedback. The Silver62 from what I understand will flow more on the exhaust side, work better on the high end, and is built for handling nitrous.
02-13-2007, 11:38 PM
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brock, u sure you don't work for BD? LOL
I called them this morning and was told almost exactly what you told me. They said the Super 62 Single does not spool any faster than stock, but makes a lot more power and will run all day in the 40's. He did not recommend the Special since it's too big for what I'm wanting - too much lag unless you have the fuel to support it.
I also asked about the intercooler and again he said the same as you (and others have said). He said it's not really needed for my application, but it would certainly help. He said the stock one looses about 4 psi and their looses 1 psi, but it's great for lowering the EGTs. Maybe that's a good thing here in north Texas where it's so HOT and HUMID in the summers???
So, here's my drawing board...
BD Super 62 Single
BD Cool-It Intercooler
Torque Converter upgrade
Valve Body upgrade
Attitude with HOT setting (to be added to my Edge Juice)
* what do I need to do about fueling??? *
BD Twin Turbo setting later down the road...
The guy at BD swore this setup (single turbo) would give my current truck the difference between night and day. Agreed?
I called them this morning and was told almost exactly what you told me. They said the Super 62 Single does not spool any faster than stock, but makes a lot more power and will run all day in the 40's. He did not recommend the Special since it's too big for what I'm wanting - too much lag unless you have the fuel to support it.
I also asked about the intercooler and again he said the same as you (and others have said). He said it's not really needed for my application, but it would certainly help. He said the stock one looses about 4 psi and their looses 1 psi, but it's great for lowering the EGTs. Maybe that's a good thing here in north Texas where it's so HOT and HUMID in the summers???
So, here's my drawing board...
BD Super 62 Single
BD Cool-It Intercooler
Torque Converter upgrade
Valve Body upgrade
Attitude with HOT setting (to be added to my Edge Juice)
* what do I need to do about fueling??? *
BD Twin Turbo setting later down the road...
The guy at BD swore this setup (single turbo) would give my current truck the difference between night and day. Agreed?
02-13-2007, 11:46 PM
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The silver 62 will spool faster because its a smaller compressor wheel than the 66 but I feel that if you can spool a silver you should spool a sps66 or a silver bullet 66. The silver bullet 66 and the silver 62 share the same turbine wheel and housing, the only diff is the compressor wheel. The silver bullet66 and the sps66 are close in spool times but I would take a silver bullet hands down, thats a mean turbo that will suport huge hp's.
02-13-2007, 11:49 PM
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If you have the right fueling off the bottom end and don't mind a little smoke, you will be a VERY happy man, good choice man.
02-14-2007, 09:17 AM
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brock, one last question (ok, maybe not, but it sounds good 
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It sounds like the Silver62 is a pretty good turbo and supports higher HP numbers than the Super B. If I end up with only 1 turbo and call it good after adding the Hot Juice and maybe some injectors and the intercooler, would you lean towards the Silver62 over the Super B? Which do you feel would spool faster and be better for non-track use?
Thanks again and congrats on the new job!
)It sounds like the Silver62 is a pretty good turbo and supports higher HP numbers than the Super B. If I end up with only 1 turbo and call it good after adding the Hot Juice and maybe some injectors and the intercooler, would you lean towards the Silver62 over the Super B? Which do you feel would spool faster and be better for non-track use?
Thanks again and congrats on the new job!
02-14-2007, 09:27 AM
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Can you spool a SPS 62 without smoke? People in So Cal can get a little nuts with smoke. Most all of my driving is in traffic and on city streets so spooling at a very low RPM is a must.
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Matt, you can spool the 62 without smoke, its all in how you do it, and what you have for fueling boxes. With a 6 speed like you have it shouldnt be difficult, just take off a little easy, and punch it after it gets up to about 1600 rpmish. You will have to play with it, but I can do it with my auto. But if I just punch it from stop without loading it, I will get a massive big cloud of smoke
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02-14-2007, 10:15 AM
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I just spoke with Brandon at II (he misses giving Brock edited by admin ) and I've changed my plans, mainly because of the low HP rating on the BD Super B Single.
The new angle of attack is this...
II Super 62 (SPS6280)
Dual Feed
FASS
2-Piece Manifold
Waste Gate Fooler
Map Sensor Fooler?
He's putting together a package price for me, but it will still be a little while before I can order it. He also recommended stacking the Edge Juice Hot, but I'm not sure if I'm that brave!
Brandon said the PS6280 (their regular turbo) would still be fine, but I can grow into the SPS6280. He said the Silver 62 was simply too much for what I'm wanting in power. He said I would not be happy with the spool time, as it's meant for folks putting out A LOT more power.
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) and I've changed my plans, mainly because of the low HP rating on the BD Super B Single.The new angle of attack is this...
II Super 62 (SPS6280)
Dual Feed
FASS
2-Piece Manifold
Waste Gate Fooler
Map Sensor Fooler?
He's putting together a package price for me, but it will still be a little while before I can order it. He also recommended stacking the Edge Juice Hot, but I'm not sure if I'm that brave!
Brandon said the PS6280 (their regular turbo) would still be fine, but I can grow into the SPS6280. He said the Silver 62 was simply too much for what I'm wanting in power. He said I would not be happy with the spool time, as it's meant for folks putting out A LOT more power.
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02-14-2007, 10:20 AM
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Matt, you can spool the 62 without smoke, its all in how you do it, and what you have for fueling boxes. With a 6 speed like you have it shouldnt be difficult, just take off a little easy, and punch it after it gets up to about 1600 rpmish. You will have to play with it, but I can do it with my auto. But if I just punch it from stop without loading it, I will get a massive big cloud of smoke
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I'm getting a Silver62 in the near future...
02-14-2007, 12:04 PM
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brock, one last question (ok, maybe not, but it sounds good )
It sounds like the Silver62 is a pretty good turbo and supports higher HP numbers than the Super B. If I end up with only 1 turbo and call it good after adding the Hot Juice and maybe some injectors and the intercooler, would you lean towards the Silver62 over the Super B? Which do you feel would spool faster and be better for non-track use?
Thanks again and congrats on the new job!
)It sounds like the Silver62 is a pretty good turbo and supports higher HP numbers than the Super B. If I end up with only 1 turbo and call it good after adding the Hot Juice and maybe some injectors and the intercooler, would you lean towards the Silver62 over the Super B? Which do you feel would spool faster and be better for non-track use?
Thanks again and congrats on the new job!
Looks like you figured it out but I was gona mention the next step up for you from the super B is would be the SPS no the silver. If you had considered the super B but now think you want a little more I would just do the PS or SPS, I doubt you will ever see the benefit from the silver in your aplication.
02-14-2007, 01:48 PM
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Looks like you figured it out but I was gona mention the next step up for you from the super B is would be the SPS no the silver. If you had considered the super B but now think you want a little more I would just do the PS or SPS, I doubt you will ever see the benefit from the silver in your aplication.
Someone should come out with a Turbo for Dumies thread.
It would have saved you and Brock a lot of time! 