Hey guys and gals...

I have been reading and looking into the TST adjustable.. I see most if not all of the members here that have a TST have it stacked with something else..

I am a lot gun shy of programers and really don't want a box that adds pressure..

How is the TST by itself without stacking????

GErry

 

I had a TST alone for 2 years. I just sold it for a Smarty. Don't get me wrong I loved that TST box. The top end on it is crazy. Like a 60 to 100mph run. It will beat the Smarty. But low end it has no match to the Smarty. If you dont want a programmer I would definetly go with TST.

 

before we talk about the TST stand alone what is your goal with the truck? The TST is more Hardcore then most of the boxes out there, it runs good stand alone just not the best box for that App. but down the road if you plan on going crazy with the truck then TST is the pick. The TST is just alittle soft down low stand alone but makes big power up top. that is the sys with out pressure, you add pressure and it is a new ball game. If you are looking for good power and alot of saftey built in. Edge J/A is a good pick, but if down the road your plans are to go crazy with the truck and stack boxes TST is the only way to fly. good thing about the Edge alot of guys will buy them and decide to go TST and sell the edge low price on the board, you could get into one at a fair price

 

I guess what I am thinking is just a good all around box, better milage but adjustable on the fly, maybe a little smoke if I want it. Not looking to make Real big HP (right now). It just seems that the Edge and TST are the only 2 non pressure boxes out there for the 05

Right now I have a stock transmission and don't plan on upgradeing it until it breaks.

 

I would say go with the Edge J/A has more saftey built in for the Trans. Defuels on slip will smoke and will make good all around power. Find a used one. save your money for a Trans

 

I would say to go with the edge j/a if you wanting to much and edge is a smoother box for an average guy whose not trying to make alot of power. When I had the tst on my truck it threw a lot of codes and I do not every throw a code with the edge.

 

Sounds like you need an Edge Juice with Attitude with the HOT upgrade.

 

I have the TST on my stock 06 with a 48RE.
I run it on 3-3 without adding fuel pressure.
It works perfect. Good power and torque. I keep it @ 3-3 so I don`t smoke the stock T/C
It has a wide range of features including the cool down timer. This is the best setup you`ll find for the money. The R49AP has Boost, EGT de-fuel features to protect the eng from over boost and heat. Boost and EGT gages.
It`s a simple install and you can change the setting`s on the fly.
This is my second TST. I had one on my 2003 and it worked great also.
No codes set on the 06. The 03 had some issue`s early on, but with reprogramming it was cured.
For my money, the TST is the best for my basic stock truck.
If I plan to go big @ a later date, I already have the best foundation and can add to it for a tailor fit of my mods...
My next step will be a T/C and V/B, then I can bump up the numbers to let it run more hp and torque. If you have been running a stock truck and you install the TST and run it @ 3-3 as recommended, you be amazed @ how much it will add without smoking anything. I love spanking the Rice.. and gas trucks...

 

I have had Quad Race, Edge Juice, Edge HOT Juice, DR Performance Stage II, Edge EZ, BDTD w/CL, and Smarty. I have the TST R49 now with my other mods. The Juice/Attitude is a very good box with lot of features, but the lastest TST R49 with all the options is a better option I believe. It does have enough saftety features and many more programming and tuning options than any other product period. Plus you get EGT, basic boost and Rail Pressure gauge builtin. Run it on the economy program to same money or in the 3/3 range on stock truck for power when you want. Just use discipline and stay off the higher settings until you can support them.

What the TST lacks in low end can be eliminated with the Rail Pressure option, but it also will help to keep from nuking a stock tc/transmission.

Just my .02.

 

The HOT juice is weak on the bottom and strong on the top as well. Since you have run both, how do they compare? Similar bottom end? Does one have more top end?

 

At least 90% of the time all I run is tst 3/1 and mp8 off and it feel good to me. I just made a 650 mile round trip with a 24' gooseneck (empty goin and had 10 horses on it comin back) and I bumped the tq up to 2 so I was runnin 3/2. No real issue with egts and I would run 70-80 depending on the traffic.

To me it is good stand alone, but I do have the mp8 when I need it as well as the rail option on the tst though I choose not to use it (thats another subject). But after reading some posts, I think after my turbo I am gonna get a smarty to stack with the tst and mp8, maybe a crazy larry, but prolly a smarty.

 

I agree that both the HOT Juice and TST are not real strong on bottom end. Mainly because of torque management, on autos at least. I ran an EZ stacked with both. The TST/EZ stack got better 60' times than the HOT Juice/EZ stack and better ETs. So based on that I believe a TST tuned right will always do better than a HOT Juice overall. The best way to fix the bottom end is with BDTD Low End Power option or Smarty Moderate or Wild version stacked .

 

If you think you will want more power down the road. Then i would go with the TsT. I made the numbers in my sig. With the tst. The new box has the option to add pressure this will wake up the bottom end. When you get every thing set right it will pull hard from the bottom all the way up to the top.

 

OK I have guages in the truck already...

The TST website say that the TSTCR is $725 and the TSTCR with R49 is $899.. Are these the same boxes except that the R49 has the guage option on it?? or are there other differences?

Thanks for all the help

 

I am not sure how much different. I also have full set of gauges and the TST R49. I use all of the features of the TST R49 and really like the additional EGT and boost gauges. You need at least the pyro sensor for the TST to defuel on high EGTs and I don't know if you have that feature without the R49. I definitely know I have become so use to the Cool Down Timer I would pay the difference just for that function alone. I know I would get the R49 again.