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Old Dec 23, 2008 | 12:20 AM
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Guys, my truck is obviously screaming it needs a trans, whats the bare minimum I can get by with? Would I be OK to just do a VB and TC, thats the extent I'm capable of doing on my own. Also do I need my trans rebuilt or would it be OK just to upgrade those parts, It seems to be in perfect condition now.

The truck pulls often, will probably never see a drag strip, will never see a sled. I would like to be able to put smarty on #9 and not worry about frying stuff.
I could put a larger turbo on in the far-out future, but not to the extent of needing head work, ect.
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Old Dec 23, 2008 | 12:27 AM
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Depends on the condition of the clutches. If it has a few miles on it, a rebuild kit combined with a good TC/VB will do you the most good.

I would recommend rebuilding if you have over 50K on it....just good insurance.

Give Goerend, HTS, Suncoast a call and ask them what they think. IMO, Dave at Goerend is the best at answering questions from a consumers stand point instead of a seller P.O.V.!
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Old Dec 23, 2008 | 12:32 AM
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It has 103K... I better call someone, What about does that run? VB, TC and basic rebuild/
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Old Dec 23, 2008 | 12:40 AM
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With that many miles I would also do a total rebuild. If you only had 50,000miles you could of just done the TC,VB, and flexplate and been golden unless the input shaft lets go. Do it right the first time or it is gonna cost ya in the long run. I would do TC,VB, Flexplate, billet input, and a fresh rebuild.
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Old Dec 23, 2008 | 12:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Sam Turner2
It has 103K... I better call someone, What about does that run? VB, TC and basic rebuild/
A good TC will run you between $1100-1300, depending on specs...
a good VB will run you between $400-600, and a rebuild kit is approx. $500.

So your looking at between $2000-2400 in parts plus $50 for fluid and filters.
Labor is a different story...I wont even begin to guess what that might be.

Either way...its VERY much worth it in the end. The smile will NEVER leave your face!!!
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Old Dec 23, 2008 | 12:43 AM
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should I order the HP parts and then take everything to a reputabable local trans guy, or just call one of the popular builders on here?
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Old Dec 23, 2008 | 12:46 AM
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Check around in your area. There might be someone close that can do a build through one of the big guys by installing there parts for ya.
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should I order the HP parts and then take everything to a reputabable local trans guy, or just call one of the popular builders on here?
Pick the brains of your local guys first and make sure they know what they are doing. Tomorrow I am sure more people will see this thread and some from Texas and might give you some info on who might be in your area that does good work.

Do it right once!!!
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Old Dec 23, 2008 | 12:49 AM
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I live between lubbock and Abilene, if this helps guys, Time for bed for me....
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Old Dec 23, 2008 | 01:10 AM
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DO NOT put a triple lock TC in with out a billet shaft of you will be buying a new shaft a new tc a new pump possibly more.
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Old Dec 23, 2008 | 09:09 AM
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so If I have this work done, Rebuild, Billet shafts, TC, VB, flex plate, deep pan,
How much HP could I hold up to? Would I be safe as my truck is now to run down the drag strip with a boosted launch?
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Old Dec 23, 2008 | 09:42 AM
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The price for all that may not be something you want to hear. Check out Goerends website. There is some good info there and his prices are amongst the lowest for what you want/need. Dave can be hard to get on the phone, but when you do he is very good to speak with and will not sell you anything you do not need.

Even if you don't go with him, I would recommend having one of the folks, like HTS (in Texas), DTT (also in Texas), Suncoast, Dunrite and others, build the tranny themselves and have your local guy install it.
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Old Dec 23, 2008 | 09:48 AM
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These guys will build the tranny to the power level you tell them to with your intended uses in mind; you need to talk to them. The power level also helps to determine the TC they will give you as well as the VB build. (not a one size fits all affair here) How they build a tranny differs from a mid HP towing rig to a high HP drag/puller rig. The turbos you intend to use will also be a difference... a big single turbo will require a looser TC than twins, for instance to help spool.

I would not be doing boosted launches with a well worn stock tranny.
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Old Dec 23, 2008 | 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by dieselram_04
DO NOT put a triple lock TC in with out a billet shaft of you will be buying a new shaft a new tc a new pump possibly more.
I ran a triple disc and VB for 30k miles with 500+ hp and never had a problem. You just can't be an idiot.

You can do a basic rebuild and then add a TC and VB and an inexpensive SFI flexplate and that will hold 500hp. You only need to start looking into billet shafts if you're gong to be well over the 500hp mark or plan to do continuous high boost 4x4 launches or sled pull.

In other words, you can get by for around $2000-2200 in parts and then you're looking at around $800-$1200 for labor for everything. If you have the tools, room, and knowledge, I would do the removal, have a shop do the basic rebuild with the VB you decide on, and then do the install yourself. That's gonna save you $500-$800.
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