With the mods., I don't anyone would touch it for free, that's just giving good parts away.

 

a white smoke concern might not be a injector concern but rater a ECM concern, you should have the dealer check your ECM part number to see if it is current. a cracked injector usual fills the crack case with diesel, or if it dumping fuel into the cylinder it will put out black smoke excessively or even hydrolock the cylinder. 05-06 injectors are more prone to failure more so then 03-04's but if it ain't broke dont fix it till it is!

 

Crazy Larry has no pressure? News to me...

I thought Performance even had some pressure...

Luken...you probably would't see it anyways...because your draining your rail. LOL.

I guess I learn something everyday.....

 

i won't say any more.


the "****" aka MP8 wasn't good to me at all. i may try again after a reflash but i doubt it. timing/pulling on its on/sometimes boost fools sometimes doesn't/ etc....i had enough with it too.

I LOVE MY CRAZY LARRY! (and TST!)

 

Can't answer for the cracked injectors but Dodge has a flash upgrade for white smoke start-ups, if you haven't had it done yet.

 

Your killing me...

You must have had a freak problem. Stacking...on a stock tranny/turbo/fuel system, you must have a judgement problem.

There is nothing wrong with the MP-8. It is so simple...and effective.

There has been a few...heck I even had one that I put on my bro's truck that had the switch wired backwards...but it was a two second fix. The EZ does not even compare. I know this crowd is scared of SP...but SP Diesel's, Quads, and the MP-8 are far superior pressure boost fooling boxes than the EZ or Predator.

I am sorry it did not work for you. I can't believe your turbo has not exploded and tranny has not melted down...but since you CP3 is starving for fuel (lack of fuel system), your not really putting that much power down over stock anyways...maybe 125hp.

 

Yeh it has been verified by numerous sources that it does not raise pressure. Back when I had my smaller inectors is when I found out that it didn't do pressure. I stacked my SP Diesel pressure box along with the Bully Dog and was able to raise the pressure from the Bully Dogs base line of 23K up to the limit of the sensor. If the Bully Dog alone was draining the rail, I would have never have been able to raise it with a pressure box.

 

I'm not draining the rail running the Crazy Larry by itself... It goes straight to 23,000 and holds steady. Then I can crank the mp-8 and it will bury the gauge at approx. 27,000.

My friends 04 had a Stage 2 cp3 mod and didn't see any added with the bully dog on any setting as well.

I don't know exactly when and where the rumor got started but its false. I know it was an advertisement that one certain downloader didn't raise rail pressure "like the bully dog." LMAO...

 

Are you talking to me? I have a DTT billet except output and flex plate..(those are on the way), i have a FASS 150....replacing that with a Glacier Competition Kit (the FASS came off today). Turbo is on the way.

We have had problems with the 04.5-05 MP8 and the 06 MP8 i own. TS says a reflash will solve the problem but that has yet to be seen.

 

I knew you didn't have a stock tranny and fuel system... I was like WHAT Only 125hp over stock????

The tst/crazy larry makes quite a bit of power...

 

yea with the hot juice/ts mp8 (when it worked right) stack, my truck outran a 546hp truck that turned a 13.6 not even a week before. It has more than 125hp over stock, trust me.

Thank you Luken. yes i know i am crazy with the BDCL/TST but it was fun! I'm laying off that right now until i have more air (and a running truck since the flex plate blew up)

 

The BullyDog programs could control fueling kind of like the Edge Juice; some use pressure and some don't based on what year your truck is. I see a large pressure increase on my truck with the BDDL on Extreme. Only the Extreme program, nothing on Tow or Performance. I have posted those rail pressure measurements several times in the past. Could probably find them using search if you're interested.

 

I wonder if it is something with the SO motors? I have friends with 305 engines that said that they saw no increase in pressure with their rail pressure gauges also.

 

The FCA is controlled by the frequency of the signal to it. The FCA directly determines the pressure of the system. Change the frequency ( duty cycle )and you can change the parameters of pressure. Parameters of: how fast the pressure builds, what the MAX pressure is at what RPM, etc.

This is an ECM value fully programmable by the DL guys.

One can watch the rail values in unit time and compare the changes. Some of the programs will get to the MAX values faster than others. Many keep the MAX values in or around the stock number, but will have less frequency ( duty cycle ) throughout the RPM range to aid in keeping the pressure up since they have a higher duration or duty cycle on the injector solenoids.

The best way to tell quickly is to watch the pressure curves with your gage and compare the values from one to another.

No, DL's dont fool the pressure sensor directly like a stand alone box, but some modify the FCA signal to accomplish a similar thing.

Finally, some of the pressure rise in unit time is accomplished from an engine that can now rev to the commanded RPM faster ( unit time )

 

Dang this thread got out of hand quick...

NEway...

1) Dealer has already reflashed for the white smoke on start-up. No Dice.

2) Been back there 4 times for these problems... Only want to clean injectors and stuff back in.

3) Dealer is now trying to play the "We will no longer warranty anything on your truck!" card because of my Fuel System.

So... I'm taking it into my own hands and going to fix the problem.

Yes you guys are correct about the fact that cracked injectors normally fill the crank case with fuel..

But I'm at a loss as to what to do next.. Everything on the truck checks out fine..

Except for some kind of fueling issue. I can't see anything being wrong with my injection pump causing these problems..

Don-M - Your Inbox is full.. Could you PM me a number or somethin' so I could talk with you.

Thanx Guys.. I appreciate the input. Although I'm even more confused now than ever.

Anybody know a good shop in the Mid Missouri area!??!