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Old Feb 10, 2009 | 02:00 PM
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Smarty Jr. and Previous SW versions

I currently have beta 4 on my Jr. and have downloaded Revo and POD on my PC but I have not loaded them yet to the Jr. I want to understand all ramificaitons before I conitnue.

If I load either one (Revo,POD), can I go back to any of my previous beta versions or the original Jr release of Dec. 07? I thought I read somewhere that if you go to Revo and above, you can't go back to previous versions but I am not sure if this was with the Orignal Smarty or the Jr. or both.

On Edit..... I have revo from 10-16-08 507A, R12A

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Old Feb 10, 2009 | 02:40 PM
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I know if its a SR you can't go back.

I have the older tnt/revos (55 not 57) on my PC. And I can go from betas to tnt/revo all I want. but if I download the new versions tnt/revo (57) I couldnt go back to the betas.
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Old Feb 10, 2009 | 04:49 PM
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You wont be able to use the earlier software, but the Power on Demand is too good to pass up.

What are you worried about?
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Old Feb 10, 2009 | 06:28 PM
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Thanks Bob, Again.. I want to understand what I am doing before I do it. You say I won't be able to use earlier software, does that apply to both Revo and POD or just POD?

In the software world.. it's nice to have updates but it is nice to also be fully backwards compatible. I suppose you can get there with the Revo version but I am still trying to figure out what Beta version is what with that code.

Thanks again to you and Marco for improving your product.
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Old Feb 10, 2009 | 06:42 PM
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You can use either Revo or POD, no beta's

The Chrysler update is what keep's changing the game
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Old Feb 10, 2009 | 06:46 PM
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So what am I missing.. my truck has not been updated by the dealer (yet), I suppose it could. So this reads if my truck gets updated at the dealer, my beta versions won't work anymore?

Sorry Bob, it's the engineer in me that wants to know the ins and outs of the product.

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Old Feb 10, 2009 | 06:49 PM
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Ramon, Once you update your ecm to the POD and return to stock, you visted the dealer by using our new software .

We have to include the new chrysler update's to keep customers that have been to the dealer.

Once they get updated and try to use an older smarty software they get " unknown software" error code.

The smarty has built in safeguards to prevent any ecm damage

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Old Feb 10, 2009 | 06:52 PM
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Ok.. I am with you now. Looks like I will have to make the change sooner or later.... not a bad thing though

This begs one more question.... won't the dealer be able to tell there is a Chrysler update to ECM but no record of it?

Ramon

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Old Feb 10, 2009 | 07:06 PM
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Ramon, The ultimate goals never change. Less smoke, better power and improved fuel economy.

Marco is unrivaled in the R & D field.

The new dyno is paying hugh dividends.

Thanks
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Old Feb 10, 2009 | 08:45 PM
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Ramon there are some new software updates from the factory that are worthwhile do the Revo.............

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Old Feb 10, 2009 | 11:13 PM
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I will try but my last question was not answered.....

won't the dealer be able to tell there is a Chrysler update to ECM but no record of it?

Also.. Bob G., let's hear the worth while updates! This would have been great weekend topic if we were all still going camping.

Ramon
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Old Feb 11, 2009 | 10:25 AM
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Really there is no reason to ever go back to the old software, you can create it with Revo. And Revo w/ PoD is all thats available for download.

A little info..

All softwares up to Revo had mild Tq management, so this can be created by default or TQ2 settings on Revo.

To duplicate previous timing..

TM4, original software
TM3, beta 3 software
TM2, beta 2 software
TM1, stock
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Old Feb 11, 2009 | 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by mrfixit454
I will try but my last question was not answered.....

won't the dealer be able to tell there is a Chrysler update to ECM but no record of it?

Also.. Bob G., let's hear the worth while updates! This would have been great weekend topic if we were all still going camping.

Ramon
I'd like to know this as well. What's in the most recent flashes from Dodge? Anything seriously worthwhile?
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Old Feb 11, 2009 | 04:55 PM
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Really there is no reason to ever go back to the old software, you can create it with Revo. And Revo w/ PoD is all thats available for download.
Thanks for the settings info, this is somehting I have been looking for. You seem to be one of the only ones posting how the thing actually works. This stems from your excellent beta testing for us. I have most all the downloads ever published and a few extra from Bob so I am capable of running these to a point until the most recent updates revo and revo/pod. My only concern now is the recent Chrysler update.

I will ask a again:
I was under the impression that there is a tag somewhere in the engine compartment (or maybe in Chrysler data base locked to my VIN) that says what software version is on the ECM. If I flash mine with revo/pod, won't this send up a red flag if the dealer has to get into my ECM and sees a newer version than the truck is registered to have?

When the flashing was explained a year or so ago, it was my understanding that the stock program did not get erased, it got added to. Has this changed now or does it only do this when Chrysler make update and the Smarty needs to comply? I.e. some smarty updates will just add to your ecm and some will reflash you base version if there is a Chrysler update?

Bob G.. this is your style....throw us a teaser and leave us hanging.... fess up!

Ramon.
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Old Feb 12, 2009 | 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted by mrfixit454
I will ask a again:
I was under the impression that there is a tag somewhere in the engine compartment (or maybe in Chrysler data base locked to my VIN) that says what software version is on the ECM. If I flash mine with revo/pod, won't this send up a red flag if the dealer has to get into my ECM and sees a newer version than the truck is registered to have?

When the flashing was explained a year or so ago, it was my understanding that the stock program did not get erased, it got added to. Has this changed now or does it only do this when Chrysler make update and the Smarty needs to comply? I.e. some smarty updates will just add to your ecm and some will reflash you base version if there is a Chrysler update?
Yes there is supposed to be a tag that states any flashes... however its not always there.. mine didn't have one (which I should have left it that way, but forgot)... you could probably remove it, or if you don't have one play dumb... A current SW is not going to give it away that you have a Smarty...

Or while in Warranty have the Dealership give you the current flash that smarty has.
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