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Old Mar 8, 2007 | 03:21 PM
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S&B Intake

just wondering how much louder my truck will be with this intake is it as loud as the afe? is there even a difference? also any do's and donts when installing it?
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Old Mar 8, 2007 | 03:33 PM
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just wondering how much louder my truck will be with this intake is it as loud as the afe? is there even a difference? also any do's and donts when installing it?

It will only be a tad bit louder with a bit more turbo whistle. No where near as loud as a AFE.

The install couldn't be any easier. Just pull the stock out and drop the S&B in.
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Old Mar 8, 2007 | 03:43 PM
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what makes the afe so loud? i was told by s&b that there is not difference in sound between the two! the s&b is a 5" the afe is a 6" cannot be that much diff?
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Old Mar 8, 2007 | 03:51 PM
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what makes the afe so loud? i was told by s&b that there is not difference in sound between the two! the s&b is a 5" the afe is a 6" cannot be that much diff?
The AFE has a HUGE torque tube compared to S&B's. It also attaches directly to the turbo where the S&B utilizies the stock turbo elbow which has fins in it. The AFE is also a "open box " design , where the S&B is close and not much different than the stock air box.

The difference in inches may only be 1" between them but, the AFE filter is much bigger than S&B's.

Don't get me wrong... it's a very nice CAI but, not really meant for big power like the AFE.
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Old Mar 8, 2007 | 03:57 PM
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"S&B utilizies the stock turbo elbow which has fins in it"

is that the ring that everyone is saying to take out? i plan on taking out the silencer ring ? i dunno i see you have a afe stage 2 maybe i made a bad choice in buying this intake!
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Old Mar 8, 2007 | 04:08 PM
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"S&B utilizies the stock turbo elbow which has fins in it"

is that the ring that everyone is saying to take out? i plan on taking out the silencer ring ? i dunno i see you have a afe stage 2 maybe i made a bad choice in buying this intake!
You didn't do bad at all. As I said, the S&B is a nice CAI. I had one for a little while but, decided I wanted to get a lot more air in and the AFE will do that. The down side ( if it is a down side :-) ) is, the AFE is a LOT ! louder. You hear every bit of whine and air flow.

The ring you're talking about is a part of the turbo. It's right inside the turbo when you take off the elbow. You'll see a retaining clip that needs to be removed and the ring will come right out.

You can always try it for a while. If you don't like it... someone else likely will and you can sell it.
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Old Mar 8, 2007 | 04:21 PM
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well i want it to be loud but not too loud, i herd one driving down the street the other day and he had a k&n intake and that thing whistled so loud, it sounded good he also had the cat delete pipe on it, and he had the silencer ring removed, how big of a difference is there from having that ring in and taking it out, is it removed when you do a afe intake?
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Old Mar 8, 2007 | 04:33 PM
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well i want it to be loud but not too loud, i herd one driving down the street the other day and he had a k&n intake and that thing whistled so loud, it sounded good he also had the cat delete pipe on it, and he had the silencer ring removed, how big of a difference is there from having that ring in and taking it out, is it removed when you do a afe intake?

if you do some searching, you'll find that the K&N is not recommended to be used on a turbo diesel. I'd say away from them.

The ring has nothing to do with a AFE. It's a part of the OEM turbo. You can remove it anytime with any intake you have. From what I've read about it.... there's no benefit at all in having it or not having it other than db levels. Likely it's another method DC or Holset used to keep the new diesels as quite as they are.

If you want your truck to scream ( turbo whistle ) ... straight pipe the exhaust and install a AFE Stage II. They'll hear you comin' for blocks away.

If you don't want it too loud as you stated.... I think you're going to be happy with the S&B.
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Old Mar 8, 2007 | 04:37 PM
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well i think i will take your advice try it if i dont like it sell it then go with the afe honestly though how much louder it the afe compared to the s&b, lets talk % wise?
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well i think i will take your advice try it if i dont like it sell it then go with the afe honestly though how much louder it the afe compared to the s&b, lets talk % wise?
IMO.... 80%
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Old Mar 8, 2007 | 04:50 PM
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the afe is 80% louder then the s&b? that is kinda hard to belive but since you have had both you would know! so basically i am not going to tell a diff from stock to the S&B? dont see myself keeping this intake to long! LOL ANYONE HAVE A AFE STG 2 FOR SALE!
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Old Mar 8, 2007 | 05:06 PM
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anyone else who is reading this have any input?
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Old Mar 8, 2007 | 05:19 PM
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it will be louder than stock...you can take the fins out of the elbow, i did on mine. i just have a k&n drop in(no problems with them on any of my diesels) and a gutted intake tube, and no silencer ring and it keeps me happy!
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Old Mar 8, 2007 | 05:52 PM
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what am i looking for when removing the "fins from the elbow" is this different from the silencer ring? how much of a difference will it make? and where are these fins located?
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Old Mar 8, 2007 | 07:11 PM
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they are in the factory rubber elbow that is attatched to turbo, they are just plastic, you can remove them, wont hurt anything but probably wont help eaither, i think they were put in there to guide the air into the turbo better
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