SW7, which is more advanced timing, 1 stock, or 2 aftermarket injectors?

In the previous softwares, aftermarket injector software was less timing because of the extra fuel already delivered by the larger injectors, was causing rattle which irritated some folks, Hence Marco removed some timing.

In those softwares, stock injector software was more advanced(fueled harder earlier). But it looks to me that SW7 on timing 1, would be the same as SW6?

I have been trying all kinds of combinations today, I cannot run SW7 on 3 or 4 torque management, truck pops, no matter which timing I choose. Setting 2, mild, any timing works without a glitch, but definitely lose low end. So I was trying to find the best timing setting, 1 on excelleration actually rattles more than 2?, but I cannot feel any difference between the two.

Hopefully I haven't muddied up the question to the point of confusion, but I certainly am confused by Marco's timing explanation.

Jess

 

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For TNT timing setting #2 is the MOST for TNT. For regular REVO #4 is the MOST.

I have a larger turbo and a tight converter, and I use timing #4 on TNT. This setting spools my snail..VERY FAST, and I dont notice too much power loss.

 

This is correct.

And by the way - not that it matters anymore - you did not have a clear understanding of the original software. Aftermarket injectors was still advanced timing beyond stock, just not as advanced as the standard amount of advance over stock.

 

"The only real difference between them two is the timing. Since we had a few guys bitchin about the "timing rattle" I've taken out a slight amount of timing. Enough to rattle less, not enough to really hurt the performance or the mileage.

Makes sense?

Marco"

This was Marco's reply to my inquiry, But I do appreciate the reply's.

So, Why do the instructions for Revo state 4 is less than 3? for nitrous.

 

Are you kidding me??? Marco, the guy we all look to for help with HIS product, is calling us BITCHERS???

As for your questions, TNT's #4 is less than #3 not REVO non-TNT.

 

I do not believe he was calling anyone names, simply describing a few individuals feedback. I had asked him the difference between "stock injector" software vs. "aftermarket injector" software.

I would have thought it less confusing, had the higher numbers escalated the timing on all softwares.

I do have an S-04, one of the earliest in production, so I have came up through the ranks, so to speak. I have been very busy, and not kept up since 411 was released, that's been my confusion.

Bob, just this afternoon, emailed me 4.2 & 4.3, so when I get back from Helena this weekend, I'll try them out, rumor has it, they work better than TNT on our 03/04 trucks.

Jess

 

Whatever man. He was saying he took a small amount of timing out of the "standard" increase to alleviate rattle. Just like no one can seem to understand how to read the REVO or TNT REVO instructions and know which order the timing settings go. The TNT's most timing is #2 which is the same timing as the original aftermarket injectors. Since the TNT also has a stock timing setting and #2 is the most, deductive reasoning should tell you that aftermarket injector timing is more than stock timing.

The instructions of the REVO don't say 4 is less than 3. The instructions of the TNT REVO say that 4 is less than 3 for nitrous use.

 

2007 5.9

Hey, I am still in the tuning process, so I really do thank you for your input.

I do not really understand calling your SPS62 a snail? I had an SPS62, LOVED it, then Brady "upgraded" me to a Silver62, that was a snail, gave me better Dyno #s, but was too hard to spool, especially towing, it sucked!

Jess

 

I am one of those individuals!!! I had WAY too much rattle with my set-up...I guess I should just quit complaining.

But yes having the timing increase as numbers go up makes sense.

 

Thank You for helping!

So,TNT's 2 is the same as the Original's "aftermarket injector",ok I got that. Which was less than the Original's "Stock Injector" timing.

That was the specific question I asked Marco, I "copy" and "pasted" his answer to me from an email in the previous post.

Jess

 

Right. You asked him about the timing for stock injectors - not stock timing. So if stock timing is "x" and stock injector timing was "x + 5", then aftermarket timing would be "x + 3" which is less timing than stock injectors but still more than stock timing.

 

Clear as MUD!

No, I really do get it, Thanks!

I believe I had it straight until the Revo and TNT came out. As bright as Marco is, I would ask, that he use an upward # scale to parallel the timing increase in all software... to help us Americans.

 

Now on that one - even though I understand the settings as they are - I agree with you completely.