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Old Nov 17, 2003 | 03:43 PM
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Newbie with Michelin tires

Only had the 2500 a few weeks, love that diesel!
So far not too impressed with the 265/70/17 stock Michelin tires. Quiet and smooth on the road, seem pretty slippery the first time on a forest service road with a few inches of snow. Anyone run these thru a winter, with snow?

Thinking about getting 285 BFGs or something. I guess ProComp will not have this size till next year--sounded like a nice tire. A local tire store said they only had the BFGs in 8 ply, I'd rather go 10 ply with all the gravel roads I travel. Any suggestions?
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Old Nov 17, 2003 | 07:42 PM
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Re:Newbie with Michelin tires

I've got the BFG 285s on my 2001 and in 2 weeks when my new rims get here, I'll have the BFG 285s on my 04 as well. I really like that tire. I don't haul much stuff around on a regular basis in the back, but I do haul my boat around and they've done just fine.

I don't know about the plies though. Somebody smarter than me will have to help you out.

Welcome aboard.
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Old Nov 18, 2003 | 10:20 AM
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BFG is made by Michelin.
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Old Nov 18, 2003 | 11:18 AM
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[quote author=Sierra Phil link=board=49;threadid=22533;start=0#msg210990 date=1069172408]
BFG is made by Michelin. [/quote]Are you implying that BFG's and Michelins are the same tire?

My stock 265/17 BFG AT's load range E were superb last winter.
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Old Nov 18, 2003 | 12:18 PM
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Yes, it is true that BFGoodrich and Uniroyal are both manufactured by Michelin. If you go to the BFGoodrich website and look at the bottom, you will see a copyright that says MNA (Michelin North America.) Here's an article on the web that talks about it too.

http://www.modemmedia.co.uk/consolidation-programs.html

You would never think that these companies had anything to do with each other because the BFGs seem to handle much better in bad weather.

As for the ply question asked above, it is directly correleted to the load rating:

C Load Range - 6 Ply
D Load Range - 8 Ply
E Load Range - 10 Ply
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Old Nov 18, 2003 | 04:11 PM
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the Michelins will leave you in a ditch on a cold night where there is no cell phone signal! i've been there! The BFG AT i feel is the best option, good road manners, good off road traction, super in the snow and in mountain driving towing i can get about 45k out of a set!
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Old Nov 18, 2003 | 06:39 PM
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Thanks, thats more what I wanted to know. Doesn't matter who makes them, I am worried about the traction and off road durability of the Mich tire--it is just a street style tire that came with the truck.

I was surprised that there is no load range E (10 ply) tire made by BFG in these larger sizes. Maybe I shouldn't worry about it. What do you do with these stock tires? Does anyone take them on trade in?
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Old Nov 18, 2003 | 07:59 PM
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The stock Michelin tires are LTX A/S, which are all season tires. The primary attribute seems to be that they're quiet. I would have much preferred their commercial LTX M&S, which is preferred by some over the BFG A/T. I've seen the LTX A/S at Les Schwab for $100 each as take-offs, but if they're almost new they might also fetch that on Ebay.

Complaints that I've heard about the BFG A/T are that they're 'bouncy', which might be because they're load range D with typically a max pressure of 65 psi. Still, they're a much better choice for off road use and snow.

Anyone know the BFG A/T does on ice ?
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Old Nov 18, 2003 | 10:48 PM
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I was up in the snow and ice hunting two weeks ago .And the bfg's were awesome ,much better than the mich. that were on my 02.The only two drawbacks to the bfg 's are they catch and through gravel like nobodys buisness leaving chips in the paint and they dont last as long as the mich.
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Old Nov 19, 2003 | 11:34 AM
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Correct me if I am wrong, but the Michelin tires are usually known for being a harder rubber and lasting longer. Think they hold the road better as long as it is not wet in any way as they hold their geometry better.

I was wondering why they ship the trucks with two entirely different tires? The two are on complete opposite spectrums for driving styles.

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Old Nov 19, 2003 | 11:59 AM
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The Michelins is a great tire for highway use. Good traction on dry pavement and very good control in the wet, but they will get you stuck in wet grass... :-[

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Old Nov 19, 2003 | 12:56 PM
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So, for those of you that have BFG, what exactly are you putting on?

My 2500 came with load range E (10 ply) tires. I checked the BFG web page and they only make up to load range D (8 ply). So I guess everyone that uses BFG drops down to a lower rated tire?

Or is it correct to assume that if I go to a larger tire such as a 285 that it will support more weight and therefore be comparable to the stock 265 E tire?
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Old Nov 19, 2003 | 02:03 PM
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[quote author=Beavermike link=board=49;threadid=22533;start=0#msg211485 date=1069268206]
So, for those of you that have BFG, what exactly are you putting on?

My 2500 came with load range E (10 ply) tires. I checked the BFG web page and they only make up to load range D (8 ply). So I guess everyone that uses BFG drops down to a lower rated tire?

Or is it correct to assume that if I go to a larger tire such as a 285 that it will support more weight and therefore be comparable to the stock 265 E tire?
[/quote]

The stock tires are Load Range E and are the Rugged Trail tires. The All Terrains and Mud Terrians only come in load range D in our sizes.

Once my BFGs wear out, I am going to get the TRXUS mud terrain tires. They are manufactured by Interco, the same company who makes Super Swampers. They are a load range E and are more agressive than the BFGs. I am going to get them a little bigger than stock 33x12.5x17.
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Old Nov 19, 2003 | 04:20 PM
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Re:Newbie with Michelin tires

I noticed the Trxus tire was a 10 ply, but only had a weight rating of a little over 3000 pounds (going off memory here). Isn’t this going to be a little light even if it was a load range E tire? ???
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Old Nov 19, 2003 | 05:48 PM
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[quote author=Bikinaz link=board=49;threadid=22533;start=0#msg211581 date=1069280431]
I noticed the Trxus tire was a 10 ply, but only had a weight rating of a little over 3000 pounds (going off memory here). Isn’t this going to be a little light even if it was a load range E tire? ???
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Yep, the TRXUS is 3085 and the BFGs are 3195. Since I'm not doing any hard core towing, I don't think the 110lbs. will matter too much. Not to mention, I think the TRXUS tires are the only 10 ply Mud tires you can get without installing a lift kit. There aren't too many All Terrain/Mud tires that are Load Range E (10 ply).
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