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Old Nov 8, 2007 | 10:53 AM
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MP-8 vs Dr. Performance

Ok folks, these are probably the top two pressure only boxes out there. Who has used BOTH (fair comparison) and what is better and WHY???
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Old Nov 8, 2007 | 11:20 AM
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I have used both and I only use them for compition only as I am not a big fan of alot of pressure. I use a custom tune from Dr. Performance and on the dyno it makes the power come on a little sooner and hold it longer in the power. It doesn't do it much but it is about 8 hp more than the MP8 on my truck.

At the level my truck is now the pressure boxes only have a small gain as the Smarty (beta) adds a little pressure already so it doesn't show a huge gain. But with large injectors and what not I like the rail pressure up when I am pulling so I add the box then. I have seen the rail guage pin the 30K with the Dr. P box but it is a little less with the MP8.
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Old Nov 8, 2007 | 11:28 AM
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Thank you for your reasoned response!
That is helpful information.
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Old Nov 8, 2007 | 11:37 AM
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I am not so sure this not sort of an urban legend??

I know in the last month there was a dyno day where our pressure only tuning made considerably more power with a Smarty than any other stack.

With the new X2 stuff I am pretty sure nothing else is close. Built in Rail gauge and the ability to change tuning makes it a phenominal stacking product.
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Old Nov 8, 2007 | 11:41 AM
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I haven't tried your pressure only box on my truck. I know the one I run that Dr.P did for me isn't out for eveyone and it is a 180hp aggressive pressure box so it is a race only box.
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Old Nov 8, 2007 | 11:54 AM
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We have different versions of pressure only tunes.

If you have the Race module you can download the Race stacking tune and it has 6 levels of pressure and a rail gauge. The higher levels are about as good as you can do in any stack and in some cases it is to much.

You cannot get 180rwhp from pressure only.
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Old Nov 8, 2007 | 11:58 AM
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That sounds like you guys have things dialed in. I might have to try that on my next time dyno tuning. I am looking at over a 1000hp on the bottle and over 800 on #2.

I know you can't get 180 hp from pressure only. Heck I only get about 29 hp over all with a pressure box. I did test one of the XTZ with pressure only but the numbers werent there.
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Old Nov 8, 2007 | 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by qzilla
I am not so sure this not sort of an urban legend??

I know in the last month there was a dyno day where our pressure only tuning made considerably more power with a Smarty than any other stack.

With the new X2 stuff I am pretty sure nothing else is close. Built in Rail gauge and the ability to change tuning makes it a phenominal stacking product.
I trust what you say, I have no evidence to doubt you either... I simply have a chance to pick up one or the other on the cheap for right now. I have been planning on an X2 at some point once the manufacturing catches up for you. Also, it seems that the Adrenaline might be more of what I am looking for too, in the long run, so am watching the development of that as well. I don't want to be in the position of throwing out $$$ for the latest greatest-- just want to do it one time, be right and be done. That said, I have been waiting for you to put out a "tst-like" module. I would probably have one if not for the high $$$ they want.

Don't take any of that as a slight to you Quad... I have great respect for your products and service and I have pitched and recommended any number of your products too and will, I'm certain, be buying one of yours at some point too.
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