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Old Jul 8, 2007 | 01:19 PM
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MP-8 and TST R49 and smarty

Just wondering how they all work together, seen guys talking about the MP-8 and the TST R49, just curoius on how it all works together.
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Old Jul 9, 2007 | 09:49 AM
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Not sure if your asking if they work good (lots run that stack) or actually how they make the power (tst= timing, duration, preassure(on some models) smarty it downloads into the ecm all sorts of parameters and the mp-8 is all pressure and maybe some boost fooling).
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Old Jul 9, 2007 | 09:56 AM
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Just kind of wondering how they can be downloaded all at the same time. Just how it all works together? Just not to sure.
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Old Jul 9, 2007 | 10:12 AM
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the tst and the mp-8 plug into the wiring harness of the truck and the smarty plugs into the obd port under the dash and thats all. The TST and MP-8 are types of modules and the smarty is called a downloader or DL. Go to there sites and you will see the difference.
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Old Jul 9, 2007 | 10:21 AM
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Thanks. I will take a look, would the II 6280 be the best turbo for this application as well, going to be ordering one here soon, just seeing what you thought.
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Old Jul 9, 2007 | 10:32 AM
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Depends totally on your application and what you are looking for. Im sure that turbo would be alright but its all about your goals. If you wanna drag race or sled pull then that probably wont be big enough but it is probably a good starter turbo. Certainly better than the stocker.
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Old Jul 10, 2007 | 02:54 AM
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running three modules you could probably spool a 66. I ran one with just the tst and a power pup on my 05. I can spool an aurora 5000 with a smarty and a tst on lower levels. 62 would be good to tow with, but youre not gonna beat many people at the pulls. these guys are serious anymore at the tracks
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Old Jul 10, 2007 | 03:27 AM
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Serious is an understatement. WFO FOR LIFE
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Old Jul 10, 2007 | 05:03 PM
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Serious is an understatement. WFO FOR LIFE
I know you guys are hardcore you have T-shirts!
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Old Jul 10, 2007 | 05:09 PM
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Smarty...SW-5, TST 03 twins 3-1, MP-8 ~ 40%...hard to beat on stock injectors/CP3.
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Old Jul 10, 2007 | 05:16 PM
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Smarty...SW-5, TST 03 twins 3-1, MP-8 ~ 40%...hard to beat on stock injectors/CP3.
Can you break this down a little for me. You're getting timing and duration from the Smarty, pressure from the MP-8, and what from the TST?

What I'm trying to figure out is if the TST is worth buying to stack with the Smarty? Or are most guys just running this stack because they already had a TST before getting a Smarty?
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Old Jul 10, 2007 | 05:53 PM
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Timing, Duration, and DRIVABILITY from the Smarty. (SW 5 Stock Injectors, Aftermarket Turbo Program)

More Timing, More Duration and BIG TOP END from the TST (03 Twins Program, 3-1, Auto 6 degrees Timing)

Dial in the max rail pressure at 26ksi or so with the MP-8...plus boost fooling for more bottom end and a max boost cap or 28 psi (so the ECM thinks).

Pretty mean...drivable...towable...550hp-600hp on OEM injectors and CP3. I ran that set up for almost 50k.

The reason to have the TST...is you don't have to reload a program when your truck changes hats...yopu can go from 400 hp towing...to 575 hp racing in 3 button pushes...
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Old Jul 10, 2007 | 06:40 PM
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I thought the tst was timing and injector pulse width. I agree with the adjustable part. I run the smarty on 8 and the tst off until I want lots of smoke or want to show somebody what a cummins can do
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Old Jul 10, 2007 | 08:30 PM
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Thanks for the info.

Can the TST do pressure and take the place of the MP-8?
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Old Jul 10, 2007 | 11:16 PM
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Thanks for the info.

Can the TST do pressure and take the place of the MP-8?
if you have the R49 remote it can add pressure yes. I dont have one because I was told by tst they were having issues with those remotes for the newer trucks 06.5 & newer. my truck is an 06.5 so I went with the R37. plus I bought it off here for a good price. you should contact tst and talk to them directly and tell them when your truck when your truck was manufactured if you want to run their box. that way if they are still having issues with it they can tell you.
www.tstproducts.com I would ask to talk to mark chappell. he is the owner. or scott that works in the shop. they will help you out.
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