I'd like the same....think the main issue is that it's a whole seperate series of software that needs to be maintained, updated, tested....and what's the magic number? 38, 39, 40, 41, 42,.....picking one wont make everyone happy....

But it would be awesome to have one limited to 40-42psi in my opinion....for those of us with stock hairdryers...

 

The Smarty boost-fooling and the Quad Boost Fooler don't raise the wastegate's setting to a higher psi - they simply remove the limit, right?

 

I believe that the stock turbo at those boost #'s 40-42 you have to be out of your efficiency range

 

I think we should clear something up, besides the smoke. Smarty does not fool the ECM with boost fooling. As I understand it, Smarty changes the entire fueling maps in the ECM to allow higher fueling/boost levels. Am I wrong here? The stock wastegate on 2004.5 and up is electronically controlled by the ECM. Therefore you are seeing smarty boost levels of 35-42 psi with a stock turbo. That is way higher than stock ECM levels and wastegate right! If you want higher boost levels you need a better turbo to achieve it. The stocker is only capable physically of compressing the air to that level, plus the air pressure it is generating is totally out of the efficiency range ( too hot, less dense). Running catcher sw meant for aftermarket turbos and injectors on a stock turbo doesn't make sense. Eventually you will over spool the stocker and it will grenade sending shrapnel to the engine. On my old 03 Smarty fuels much quicker and surpasses the mechanical stock wastegate setting of 24-25 psi. The highest on level 3, stock torque management, safe level auto tranny I've seen is 29 psi. However you must leave your foot planted against the firewall.

I'm getting off topic on my original point here. I don't believe a boost fooler is required for Smarty. You could install a mechanically restrictive boost elbow to delay the wastegate opening, but sooner or later it will grenade

 

A stock turbo designed to run at 32psi is not that far out of it's optimal range at 40psi. Yes it's less efficient at 40psi, but it still cools and does the job better than it does at 32psi (considering the additional fuel added). We're not talking about crazy high drive pressures and completely unefficient boost at 40psi guys. I think it's safe to say these turbos have been proven to run 40psi without problems. Just take a look at all the Quad users with boost fooling who hit those levels all day.

If the turbo stays under 42psi and EGT's are 200* less with the aftermarket program, then it makes plenty of sense to run it! It wouldn't make sense to run the 32psi max program IMO because EGT's are uncontrollable.

 

Agreed.....I definately noticed a perf improvement and cooler egt's using the bf version....just cant constrain the boost and it went too high 45psi+....so i took it off.....i'm comfortable up to about 40-42....but not any higher on a stock turbo....and since i cant limit it at this time....i'm back to stock turbo software

FYI, Quadzilla chimed in on another post and his view supported similiar to the above

 

The Quad will run my stock Holset up to 45 psi - out of it's optimal efficiency range, but all that hot air is still making power!

 

As simple as possible. I'm working on the 40/42 WG setting / boost limit to implement into all SW's. The "beta" SW already has it and works like a charm...


Marco

 

FAN FREAKING TASTIC!!!!!!!

THANKS MARCO!

Please let us know when this boost enhanced version is ready and which ones.... I want to make sure I don't run it stacked with my Quad Boost fooler.

FYI stock 2006 SW on my truck will hit 32 PSI for a second then drop to 30 PSI Adding 10 more PSI is just right!

My 1997 with a #10 would hit 35-40 PSI all the time... Turbo is still going strong at 250 K BOMBED miles. Centerforce clutch is slipping a bit now and it spun a 5th gear off at 200K. (with a 5th gear "fix" by Blue Chip Diesel)

The new turbo is better suited for this (40 PSI) pressure than the gen 2 was.

The current Smarty SW (stock turbo) with a Quad Boost fooler will go over 45 PSI (might go to 50)... TOO MUCH! I let off at 42 PSI. over 45 psi is studs and after market turbo territory IMHO...

 

It's times like this that make you glad you bought a Smarty!

Thanks Marco!

 

That's awesome Marco....think it adds a lot of benefit for those with stock turbo's.....and is yet another reason to own a smarty! You the man!

 

JohnInNH; "The current Smarty SW (stock turbo) with a Quad Boost fooler will go over 45 PSI (might go to 50)... TOO MUCH! I let off at 42 PSI. over 45 psi is studs and after market turbo territory IMHO..."

Which Smarty program and setting are you running where to boost is climbing towards 50psi? Is that on setting 9? I'm not seeing that much on #5 (clutch won't handle higher than 5 anyway) but I'm at 4100' elevation or so too. On #5 at this altitude it's mostly about 38psi @WOT w/ the original S-06 program coupled with a quad boost fooler.

 

With the smarty on #7 and mp-8 on 40% I can hit 40 psi notin flat!! I just uploaded #9 this weekend and have been playing with it. 50 psi is max for the stocker. But it won't last long.. Too many variables, head bolts, gaskets, etc.... I am curious to see what will happen when I swap in the aurora 5k. I do know studs will be ordered shortly but I have been told 55 psi is nothing. I will have to talk to bob about the smarty/turbo download?

Smoke on the smarty is very nice at 3,5. 7 & 9 I guarantee I can blow smoke for almost a solid mile!! I completely blacked out a navigator that was on my butt this afternoon. Just lagged the turbo and walla no more navigator!! I need to video it and then figure out how to upload it for you guys. Plus do a comparison with stock turbo and aftermarket turbo..

Shane

 

pupeperson

Both Moderate and Wild on #9 up a steep hill in 5th overdrive (same ratio as 6th) Roll on the throttle fairly quick, but not stomped on. (it builds boost faster if you roll it on)

I have a hard time seeing boost over 30 on the flat, empty, in any gear below 5th. (well maybe a tad in 4th) Just not enough resistance and I run out of gear to fast.

I also don't think the Smarty smokes all that much. My 1997 with a #10 torque plate, AFC spring kit, and 4" pipe would bellow smoke at low rpm. It also could hit 35-40 psi at will. WAY over fueled at low rpm. LOL.