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losing sleep over wheels: 18s or 20s ??

Old Oct 23, 2008 | 10:35 PM
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i know, I want more AIR next thing, it's thin here in CO !!!

but first some wheels and tires eh? gotta lose the stockers, but not the speed!
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Old Oct 23, 2008 | 10:52 PM
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Welcome, go with 20s, here are a few choices:

Nitto Dura Grappler Nitto Terra Grappler
275/65/20 E rated 34.4" 3750 cap

Toyo Open Country AT
same as above

Goodyear Wrangler Silent Armor
305/60/20
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Old Oct 24, 2008 | 07:16 AM
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I wouldn't go any bigger than 18's. The "big wheel with little sidewall" thing doesn't look right on a 4x4, looks cool on some lowered cars though...
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Old Oct 24, 2008 | 07:34 AM
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Keep the stock wheel and just put some Toyo Muds on it, and use the rest for your stereo upgrade. Having a backup camera rules.
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Old Oct 24, 2008 | 08:34 AM
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Take a look at these rims, I think they make them in chrome too:

http://www.rimzoneonline.com/xd79518x9hossblack.htm

Size: 18 x 9
Bolt Circle: 8x165.1
Offset: +30
Backside Setting: 6.18

They make E rated Toyo A/T's and M/T's in 285/75R18 which is 35x11.5x18 that are rated for 4080 lbs a piece.

http://www.toyo.com/docs/tires/tires...=lgt-suv-truck

I don't think the rims could match the load capability of the tires though.
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Old Oct 24, 2008 | 09:23 AM
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almost even split between those favoring 18s vs those favoring 20s. I do really appreciate all the comments! I'll keep checking for photos ... looks DO matter .... I won't be going to any more lift than the level kit and it seems like those with 4" lift prefer 20s, the rest lean to 18s.

in 20s I can find Eagle 178 and 114, and ProComp 8188, all with nearly stock BS. The tires I would have to live with are Goodyear Wrangler A/T at $160 per. any others are $ 3 bills or more.

in 18s, you can get good rubber for more like $250, and I agree that a little more tire looks a little better on trucks generally.

it's a good discussion, thanks for the feedback!
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Old Oct 24, 2008 | 09:31 AM
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Why bother buying new rims if you're only going to go with 18's? They will look the same size as the stockers, and the stockers are good quality aluminum rims. IMO if you're not moving up to 20's or bigger then you're just wasting money going with 18's.
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Old Oct 24, 2008 | 10:12 AM
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285/75R18 TOYO OPEN COUNTRY. IS A LOAD RANGE E TIRE, IS EQUIVALENT TO A 35x11.5x18. Go with 18's
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Old Oct 24, 2008 | 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by silverrhino
285/75R18 TOYO OPEN COUNTRY. IS A LOAD RANGE E TIRE, IS EQUIVALENT TO A 35x11.5x18. Go with 18's
Hey bro you are prob right and I don't know how to do the convesion without googleing it but are you sur a 285/75/r18 is a 35"...i thought it was more like 33.5 but like I said I am prob wrong
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Old Oct 24, 2008 | 10:19 AM
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In my opinion I wouldn't go bigger than 18's if you are going with a 35" tire. 20's need 37" tires or larger to look good in my opinion. There are a lot of E rated tires out there in the 18" rim range and for a lot less cash than 20's.

I run 18" rims and 325/65/18 tires here in colorado and I love them.
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Old Oct 24, 2008 | 11:01 AM
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There's a pretty cool tire and wheel conversion/calculator that someone pointed me to:

http://www.dakota-truck.net/TIRECALC/tirecalc.html


http://www.dakota-truck.net/TIRECALC/tirecalc.html

You can plug in all the specs and get comparison on sidewall, circumference, change in spedo reading, etc.

I don't want to go with wide MTs, would rather have an AT tire that's quieter.

I see the point sticking with 17s and just upsizing the tires ... but i guess I'm willing to splurge on a little cosmetics improvement and as i say was hoping to get up to a 34 or 35 tire, not too wide, to fill out the wheel well and also offer 1-200 RPM lower cruising at 75 or 80 mph.
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Old Oct 24, 2008 | 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by zvestal
almost even split between those favoring 18s vs those favoring 20s. I do really appreciate all the comments! I'll keep checking for photos ... looks DO matter .... I won't be going to any more lift than the level kit and it seems like those with 4" lift prefer 20s, the rest lean to 18s.

in 20s I can find Eagle 178 and 114, and ProComp 8188, all with nearly stock BS. The tires I would have to live with are Goodyear Wrangler A/T at $160 per. any others are $ 3 bills or more.

in 18s, you can get good rubber for more like $250, and I agree that a little more tire looks a little better on trucks generally.

it's a good discussion, thanks for the feedback!
Zvestal:
You are correct, you will find an even split on wheels opinions between 18s and 20s sizes and is just a matter of tightly withies vs. boxer. It is what people like and differ, you know like, blonds, brunettes, tall, skinny, voluptuous, etc.

If you were a real hardcore 18s type of a guy you would never consider 20s and 22s would be ridiculous to your taste.

But because you are asking the question about 20s, like me, you have an open mind to the choice.

So… looks vs. usage

To many of us 20s with 35” look just right
To many of us 18s with 35” or 33” look just right

I have had all of them: After market 17, 18, 20 and 22 wheels, with tires 245, 265, 285, 295, 33, 35, 37.
Yes, that is a lot of wheels and tires and that is why my wife drives a nice car J

Here are some points I learned:
Like it was said before going from 17” to 18” is only a ½” radius increase.
The thicker sidewall does protect the rim.
The difference while driving between 20s and 18s is not that noticeable.
After I got the 18s I immediately regretted not going to 20s.
Yes 20 tires are pricey
And the most important one is: How would you like your truck to look when you are done if you are ever done.

Quick note:
If you keep the truck long enough and not matter what you get this question/issue will resurface in your mind every now and then.
My input would probably not make the decision for you but at least you know you are not along and that should help you sleep better.

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Old Oct 24, 2008 | 11:55 AM
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best info so far!! from a guy with way more experience than I'll probably ever be able to afford. your truck looks great by the way!! and thanks for the pic, I found your gallery good as well .
and yeah, personal preference is everything ... just wish I could try some fits with zero consequence/cost until I find the right combo. I always thought the Fords looked good with their stock 20s bu I think that might be cause they appear to sit lower to start with.

many thanks .. I will continue to ponder and just go from there. level kit next week, so after that will have a better idea what the look will have to be, to fit the truck.
agian, thanks for the time and thoughts everyone.
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Old Oct 24, 2008 | 05:03 PM
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Shot of mine, if looking to change the look of your truck sure the 20's will work, but if you're still thinking about the 18's I would say spend your money somewhere else. Whatever you do, do it right the first time.

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Old Oct 24, 2008 | 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by XXLTEXAN
Hey bro you are prob right and I don't know how to do the convesion without googleing it but are you sur a 285/75/r18 is a 35"...i thought it was more like 33.5 but like I said I am prob wrong
That was actually direct from Toyo's website. I have been looking at getting smaller A/T Tires myself. I thought the same thing, but my tire distributor told me that is the correct dimensions.
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