dropped2500

yea me either. i have had the edge but my g/f's uncle got me the bullydog for x-mas so i had to try it. think i should trade it for something else?

06CTDforAU

I doubt it is either. Just saying that I have heard of a few Attitude monitors being off. If you read the same numbers as you do stock, chances are everything is okay. If I were you, I'd bump the backdown setting up to about 1450° and set the alarm to come on at 1375°. That's how I had mine set up and it worked pretty good that way.

If you are wanting a programmer/downloader you may want to consider something that has a no timing or reduced timing option like the Smarty. Not sure wht other programmers have that, but I know the Smarty does. If you are looking for a little more punch down low and would like a plug-in type chip/box, look at a Quadzilla XZT X2, Quadzilla XZT Pressure Only, Edge EZ, Dr. P, or something like that. Those simply add pressure and normally stack well with the Juice/Attitude. My XZT X2 worked awesome with the Juice/Attitude. Gave it quite a bit more low end punch.

Diesel-Dude

I've never noticed mine spike like that, especially on the lower settings (run on level "3" 95% of the time). If I'm heading down the highway in 6th gear and stand on it hard to go around someone, it's just a steady somewhat rapid climb. I have to have it on level "5" and row through the gears hard to see 1400. (the "hot" on the 555 Juices doesn't have a level "6". "hot" just recalibrates all the settings, with "5" being 150hp/400ft.lb.)

I wonder if it's the difference in Edge's programming from the 555 Cummins like mine to the 600. Edge told me the Juice for the 600's use timing and pulse duration to make the power where as the 555's (03-04) start off with pressure and then transition to timing/duration partway through the rpm band.

sallyman1

could be. the hot is #6 and its 180 HP. Which leads me to another ? i dont wanna start world war 3 but if that #6 setting says 180HP and 440 lbsft torque is that what ill get when im on #6? Add that to my already 325 engine HP. 180 + 325 = 505 Engine flywheel HP. I know thats not RWHP but is that how it works?

06CTDforAU

Depends if Edge measures their gains at the rear wheel or at the flywheel. Actually, I just checked and the Edge site claims the gains were measured at the rear wheels.

Diesel-Dude

Level 6 dumps enough fuel to make the advertised hp at the wheels if you have the airflow to support it. Unfortunately our stock turbos don't like near that much fuel and high EGT's are the result. They'll make that much power, but you'd likely see EGT's around 1700* or better!

So, your stock engine is rated for 325hp/600 lb.-ft. at the crank. Assume a 20% parasitic loss through the drivedrain, which = 260hp/480 lb.-ft. at the wheels. Assuming the airflow requirements are met, level 6 should bring your rear wheel numbers to 440hp/920 lb.-ft.(approx 560hp-1150lb.-ft. at the crank). A good intake and exhaust combo could up those numbers a bit, though the best way to realize the extra fueling the hot juice offers is with a turbo upgrade. I'll be swapping in an HTT HTB2-62/12/65 as soon as my tax return gets here. Just enough turbo to burn the fuel without being overkill. I'm hoping to see something in the 480 rwhp range. We'll see.

sallyman1

i have ****** whistler intake which is probably the best around for letting air in.(not the prettiest compared to AFE)

I have pretty much turbo back 4" with CAT and Stock Muffler gone. ( I do have a AERO4040XL where cat was though)
With that being said that should up it a bit

Diesel-Dude

How much boost do you see on level 6? My stock turbo will blow right past the wastegate and spike 44-45 lbs before the Juice/Attitude can back 'er down. Poor little feller must be spinning 140,000 RPM's to make that much boost!

sallyman1

im not sure i just watch EGTS. ill check tommorrow ok. tommorrow ill drive 65 mph empty and give u all results at different levels including stock.

sallyman1

it was -35 celcius today with windchill. could it be the cold air intake making my egts and psi high? should i block off the air hole in fender for winter driving?

Diesel-Dude

Actually, the cold air intake should drop your EGT's at least 100-150 degrees compared to the stock airbox/filter. You didn't say how high your boost numbers are, but I know with my Edge on the higher settings, there's so much fuel being burnt, the excess drive pressure spins the turbo faster than it was designed to. This causes the boost numbers to go high because the stock waste gate wasn't designed to deal with that much excess boost. The over-spun turbo is simply building excess boost faster than the waste gate can bleed it off. In this condition. the stock turbo is at great risk of basically flying apart due to being spun tremendously faster that it's design limits allow.

sallyman1

at 350 egts on level 1 my boost is like 35 psi or so

sallyman1

If I set MAX EGT on attitude for 1300 and the alarm for 1450 why does the alarm go off when i pass people on setting 0 (stock)? if i goto setting 1-6 it gets progressively worse.

Diesel-Dude

That's a real good question. I don't beleive I've ever hit 1300+ on the stock setting. Even when pulling my 8000lb 5er. I wonder if you'd see any improvment if you removed the Aero4040XL? Or maybe try a different brand of filter on the Whistler. I just don't see any reason for you to be getting that hot. Especially on the stock setting.

canadiandiesel

can you post a pick of where your probe is tapped? this may solve some of the questions. also, your max and alarm should be the other way around. alarm is just that, warning, set at 1350ish, max is a shut down and defuel to save motor and other parts you don't want to blow up, 1400ish and the backdown should be 100%. i can't say i have ever seen numbers that high on mine running empty, i don't have the attitude in my 04.5 just the ez and analog guages, but even at the track i don't see 1250 any where in the 1/4 mile? you might have some other issues if the edge is new. check your fins on the intercooler, being in saskatchewan you have probibly hit about 1 zillion grasshoppers, lol, and this does effect the intake air temp.