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Old Feb 4, 2008 | 06:39 PM
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Help With Lift!! I'm Confrused!

I really like these wheels here, but they are 4.5" BS.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/17-in...mZ180212704784

I want to run these and some 35-12-50/17's BFG MT's. Of course I am American and want to get out as cheap as possible. I am pretty sure that a leveling kit will not allow it. Will a 4" kit get it? Probably gonna go with a Superlift kit w/bilsteins (reg. shocks, not w/reservoirs) if I have to lift it.

Where is the cheapest place to get Superlift stuff if that is what I have to do??

If you guys have any better ideas on wheels let me know. I would really like to get 35's under it with just a level kit, but DO NOT WANT H2's or stock crap.
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Old Feb 4, 2008 | 07:01 PM
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I installed the carli 3" lift in mine.carli says only use one of the rear spacers,but I used all 3.You will definately need a longer trac bar to center your front axle as it will get pushed off center from the lift.I used solidsteels trac bar and a solidsteel steering box stabilizer to take the stress of the bigger wheels off my steering box.Everything works great together.Steering is tight,no wandering even at highway speeds.I am running 295/70/17 toyo m/t on 17" xd series black spys.Backspacing on these rims is 4.5".Pretty close to stock which is 6".They dont really stick out far at all.Truck looks real aggressive,yet still is functionable for long distance hauls. I would definately recommend this system.
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Old Feb 4, 2008 | 07:20 PM
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yeah I like those wheels too, but seem that the BS is all wrong. Need more like a 5.5 or 6" BS. The 1.5" makes a difference.
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Old Feb 4, 2008 | 07:41 PM
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With 35x12.50's you MAY be able to clear that rim/tire setup with a 4" lift. I had those same wheels on 325/65/18 Terra Grapplers and needed 5" to clear. The Nitto's are a bit wider than the BFG's though.

And you are correct, the 1-1.5" makes a HUGE difference.
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Old Feb 4, 2008 | 07:43 PM
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Stay within the 5.5"-6" backspacing or if you want 4.5" backspacing. Consider longer control arms to eliminate the rub on the back rear fender well.
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Old Feb 4, 2008 | 07:45 PM
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Those wheels look great! As far as fitment with a 35" tire, you will probably need the 4" lift kit, due to the back spacing. 4.5" BS is not a bad thing, it just makes the wheels "hang out" a little more.


I just swapped my 22x11 M26 wheels to a set of 22x14 black XD diesels, and both have 4.5" BS.

Everybody has their own style.
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Old Feb 4, 2008 | 07:46 PM
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By the way I've got 35x12.50 Cooper STT's on 18x9 Rockstars with 5" of backspacing. This is all on a Carli 3" lift. No rubbing here at all. Looks great too!
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Old Feb 5, 2008 | 04:25 AM
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Originally Posted by 06CTDforAU
By the way I've got 35x12.50 Cooper STT's on 18x9 Rockstars with 5" of backspacing. This is all on a Carli 3" lift. No rubbing here at all. Looks great too!
the difference between 4.5" and 5" of b/s is HUGE! couldn't clear 35" toyo m/t's with my lift and 4.53" b/s, but they cleared easily with 5" b/s. if you go ahead and do the lift, just be aware you still might not be able to run that set-up.
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Old Feb 5, 2008 | 08:36 AM
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I too looked at Moto Metals for a long time, liked the look, but in the end the 4.5" BS is kinda the kiss of death on these trucks. It causes rub issues (with 35" tires, this should be totally non-existant on these trucks) and IMHO it makes the wheel stick out too far from the body. I would definantly stick with at LEAST the 5" BS number (on a 9" or narrower wheel).
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Old Feb 6, 2008 | 03:52 AM
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Originally Posted by BlackSunShyne
I too looked at Moto Metals for a long time, liked the look, but in the end the 4.5" BS is kinda the kiss of death on these trucks. It causes rub issues (with 35" tires, this should be totally non-existant on these trucks) and IMHO it makes the wheel stick out too far from the body. I would definantly stick with at LEAST the 5" BS number (on a 9" or narrower wheel).
moto 951's gave me my grief with 35" toyos. fine to use with 33's, though.
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Old Feb 6, 2008 | 08:52 PM
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thanks for all the replies....and by all means KEEP it coming. I am not stuck on those wheels, but the price is right for sure. I am pretty stuck on the 35's in either Cooper STT's or BFG MT's. I think 6" lift kit would be too much for the 35's.

You guys have any other wheel choices that are the same "style" as those Moto Metals? I have a silver truck so the mostly black with chrome is what I am looking for.

Let me throw this out there too.....say I got those wheels and tires and a 4" lift kit would not clear.....could I use say a leveling kit in the front and then get a slightly taller block in the back??
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Old Feb 6, 2008 | 09:16 PM
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Originally Posted by TexSoftail
thanks for all the replies....and by all means KEEP it coming. I am not stuck on those wheels, but the price is right for sure. I am pretty stuck on the 35's in either Cooper STT's or BFG MT's. I think 6" lift kit would be too much for the 35's.

You guys have any other wheel choices that are the same "style" as those Moto Metals? I have a silver truck so the mostly black with chrome is what I am looking for.

Let me throw this out there too.....say I got those wheels and tires and a 4" lift kit would not clear.....could I use say a leveling kit in the front and then get a slightly taller block in the back??
6" will be too tall for 35's to fit right. In my opinion, you need 37's with anything over 4 1/2". I still think you would be close to clearing with 35x12.50's and a 4" lift even if the wheels have 4.5" backspacing. It'll be really close.
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Old Feb 6, 2008 | 11:49 PM
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951's

mine has a 6" bds and bfg 35's and i beat the hel out of it. but the tires do look to small they never rubbed but when turning they are about 1 1/2 inches of clerance, after i put my ranch hand on and beat the lift more it started to sag and i added a 2" spacer, and i still can't run 37's. i love the wheels though, easy to clean and they always look good, but the back spacing sucks.
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Old Feb 7, 2008 | 01:04 AM
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I have XD Hoss 18x9 w/ 5.71 BS and 325/65/18's with no rub running only a 2in spacer.
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Old Feb 7, 2008 | 03:54 AM
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Originally Posted by 06CTDforAU
6" will be too tall for 35's to fit right. In my opinion, you need 37's with anything over 4 1/2". I still think you would be close to clearing with 35x12.50's and a 4" lift even if the wheels have 4.5" backspacing. It'll be really close.
while there is always a chance of fitting, most people rub with that set-up. craig's list, e-bay, classifieds, etc. are full of wheels with 4.5" b/s for a reason.
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