All,

I am fairly new to posting on this forum, I read a lot, just don’t post much.

Here is my current situation. I use my totally stock 04 dodge dully 6sp QC as a daily driver (no towing). On occasion I do tow my 05 sandpiper 5er. Total weight GCVW is 17.2k. Overall the truck does great pulling it, can’t say the same for stopping it. I plan on installing a pacbrake to solve that problem. Now here is the problem, my wife and I are in the process of kicking around the idea of a toy hauler, namely a 41ft KZ Inferno 4012, I figure the totally weight will be somewhere in the neighborhood of 23k total. To do this I would like to get a little more out of the engine. Currently I have the 305/555 engine. I know I need gauges planning on an EGT and boost. Now here is the question which tuner to buy, the more I read the more I am confused. I am pretty sure (unless someone can change my mind) that I DO NOT want a fueler chip, but past that I am very confused. I am very interested in the PROs and CONs of each chip, smarty, edge ez, bully dog.

Also to add to this, will any of the chips work on biodiesel? I do under stand that between b0 and b100 there is about an 18k btu loose, resulting in lose of overall power.

Please keep in mind that I want to tow better…though I do get a kick out of seeing a vette get its back side burned by a 7k lb race truck.

Please offer suggestions….
Confused (Bryan)

 

Well I am sure you will hear smarty a lot, but I say for the year of truck the diablo predator is awesome. It comes with 3 tunes, one for towing, one for not towing as much and one for fun. All that for under 400 bucks. I love mine.

 

My biggest concern would not be a chip it would be a clutch!!! Towing that much weight your only living on borrowed time... I am a huge fan of smarty..... But to each is his own... I got 44k out of my stock tranny towing 19k every day...

 

I agree with the clutch, but as far as power goes, DO NOT let anyone talk you into a downloader that you cannot adjust on the fly. Get the Juice or a Quad product that you can adjust by simply tapping a button if needed.

 

Shane where did you put in a clutch.................




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BEFORE ANY CHIP YOU NEED GAUGES.




The that thing I like about the EDGE JUICE w/ATTITUDE, you get 14 different perameters to choose from, monitoring up to 4 all in 1 unit.









It really depends how far you want to go with the truck, or should I say how much $$$ you want to spend

 

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LMWAO!!!!!

 

Bryan, sir you went from towing a Sandpiper to towing a toy hauler to racing a vette in one post.

1. Get a Quad Commander for gauges, It lets you set limits to prevent damage( by defueling.).
2. get a clutch
3. get a fuel system cheaper than you think for a do it yourself Walbro.
4. Get a smarty. yes it is a downloader but you will not be racing a vette while towing a toy hauler.
5. mod you air box.
6. lots of exhaust system to chose from.

At that point you are over 400 hp.

 

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And will still be towing with stock power because with the stock turbo he may encounter high egts on a hill with that heavy of a load and a non-adjustable programmer does him no good at that point. You got the Quad Commander part right with the safety limits, but it has to be hooked up to a Quad box to take advantage of those features. That's why I said Quad or Edge.

 

This is the order I did my mods in, not saying it's right, but...

gauges
cold air intake
exhaust (Nelson muffler)
programmer
exhaust brake
next will be fuel system.

For you I would definitely get gauges first though before any chip or programmer. The clutch can wait til it starts to go, mine has never slipped but I know it will if I try to run Crazy Larry.

 

Id go with just a quad std box with the commander gauge system and a pacbrake and a ****** whistler air intake. I never had any egt problems with my edge module but the quad box is a much better bang for the buck. And it would stack with the smarty where the edge wont, that is if you ever decided to destroy a set of tires or something. $2000-2200 total

As long as you dont romp on it act like I do that should work pretty good for you and if the clutch starts to give you'll know, order a South Bend Con FE single disc clutch for another $1100 bucks.

 

I would get an edge ez BOX since you pull all that weight and you wouldnt have to buy a clutch and all that. you would just need to get a set of gauges then