The 391 will support up to 650 hp even...so it really does not matter. I love over kill so I spent a couple more bucks for the 392. Talk to Rich...he will help you figure it out. He is straight forward.

 

The old motors were serviceable, you could replace the brushes. The factory kept having problems with users cracking & losing the caps, forgetting the o-rings, and not sealing the unit properly after servicing, allowing water into the motor. FASS II now has a new non-servicable motor which is designed to last even longer.

All products and manufacturers upgrade their products. IF they didn't we would all be driving 1st gens, or better yet old Power Wagons.

I'm not saying Walbro is a not a good product. Certainly, Rich, Glacier Diesel knows what he is doing. I would give Walbro another look if I didn't have the FASS II already, but the 4 year warranty may still sway me. Again, I must have dependability as I rely on my truck everyday.

Rich, can the Walbro give a 4 year warranty on their pumps?

 

That big of a warranty is nice...but Hyundia's come with 10 year 100k too...

LOL.

For me the lack of noise (to my deaf ear...I can't even hear it run with my head next to it), performance (I have yet to use a older FASS, or Holley that can lay down the pressure/volume that the Walbro has), and the fact that they are easily found if needed at most auto parts stores was the selling points to me.

My Cummins did not need a warranty (just flipped 100k ), so why does my Walbro? I am not bashing the FASSII...but there is another SERIOUS contender out there.

 

I agree with that, Walbro is here to stay. The good news is we have now have a choice.

But I got a feeling the debate ain't over.

 

BOSS,

Talk to Richard and get his recommendations. It depends on how much power you're making or are planing to make. No need to go overkill if you have a nearly stock engine.


Another point about these kits is that if you do ever have a failure (unlikely), you could go to the nearest parts store and get a cheap little clicker pump and you could be on your way in a short time because the rubber lines and power wires are all set up under there. Try that with the stock setup.

Wetspirit

 

A warrantee is nice and I don't know what the warrantee is, but if you use your truck every day how would you take advantage of the warrantee in case of a failure? Really, would you send the pump back and wait for it to be tested and wait for a replacement to be sent? It would be far easier and quicker to just go get another one, put it in and get back to what you were doing if your truck must be constantly available. These paumps are available from other suppliers besides Richard. I'm just wondering how a long warrantee keeps you going without delay????

Wetspirit

 

Who needs a warranty with a Walbro... Have you ever heard of one quiting??? Just because you can't hear it doesn't mean its not working

Also, the price isn't comparable... When you start talking about running 50psi. The fass 200 is out of this world compared to the the Walbro... I had mine set at 20 then bumped it to 30... Now its at 42 psi. The higher you go the better it performs. If my stage 2 cp3 needs more pressure I'll bump it up more....

 

No complaints about my FASS II. Idle at 20 and down the road at 19. WOT it goes all the way down to 17.

It was a little noisey at first, but it has quited down considerably. I can't hear it inside the cab while running and the noise at key-on lets me know its working with going through ALL the trouble of looking at my gage.

Seriously, great product, great kit, and dependable.

 

Thanks for the replies guys....

Ill be ordering my Glacier kit in the next few weeks....

 

Another vote for Walbro. I don't have Glaciers' kit because I installed mine before there was a Glacier...
Still running strong, 18psi thru three filters.

 

I run the GDP Walbro kit. It's been running perfectly for over 10k miles now. With warm fuel it puts out 24.5psi through two filters; a 7 micron in the OEM canister and a 2 micron filter kit from GDP!!

 

Well, Looks like im going with the walbro.. Thanks for all the replies everyone...

 

This is how I have my walbro setup...

New pickup tube > screen filter > walbro > From the pump I run the lines back up into the bed through the water seperator/2 micron > Then back down out of the bed, down the frame to the cp3... (like 200ft of hose)

I am measuring the pressure 6 inches from the cp3 and I have it set at 42 and it pulls down to 40psi under full throttle....How's that for fuel pressure?

 

You know maybe an old PowerWagon isn't such a bad idea, never had one but ... Of course I never had a new vehicle, let alone a diesel until the 03 QC; started driving before the end of the Vietnam War.

L8r,............dogger

 

Don't know the Walbro...was not around when I bgt my FASS. Neither was their HPFP (without filters), which is competitively priced with the Walbro full kit.

But there are many misconceptions around about the FASS... like the above $300.00 for replacing a "poorly" designed pump motor!
I was quoted $175.00 to get latest upgrades. My FASS is 2 yrs old and has run perfectly for 70,000 miles. For those that like overkill (me too) the FASS products are it. I have gone from 450 hp to 600+ and my FP still sits there and never drops more than 1-2 psi.
When you get one in your hands..the quality and engineering become evident. At that point, for me, the question of "did I pay too much?" disappeared.
Most of the problems I am familiar with, regarding FASS pumps, can be traced back to poor DIY installations. It's not difficult to hook up, but many of us have just never done it before.

Nice to have another choice out there, now.... but I would still buy a FASS again, if I needed one!

Rj