Electric Fans on 3rd Gens
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Have you ever noticed how much air is flowing trough the radiator when your at idle? Must be why the fan clutch engages to keep the ac condencer working. With a fluid coupler you aren't going to spin fast enough to keep up with the air flow from forward motion hence the restiction. If you ever moniter the IAT the hotter the motor the hoter the IAT not because of the turbo or the temps would drop off every time there was no boost. The turbo does increase the temp when the boost increases. It's the radiator heating up the intercooler because there is no air flow throught it. Must be why there a big gap between the inter cooler and the radiator to let some of the air get through, because the radiator fan isn't pulling it through the intercooler.
The IAT increases with engine temp because the IAT sensor is inside the engine compartment.
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Electically monitored
My buddies 04.5 doesn't have the fan connected and it doesn't throw any codes?
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I monitor it at the intake and dont notice a drop in temp till driving wether it be from air flow or pressure at a idle it increases and cools while diiving and with it in the intake it averages 10* hotter than ambient air temp unless its over 90* out side than its 15 to 20* so Im not if Im getting false readings or not but the stock CAC seems pretty efficant intake air is relativly cool compared to claims of 200* + temps claimed by companys selling there brand of CACs
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The one at the filter box. It's a dual purpose pressure/temp sensor.
What method are you using to monitor it? Are you sure you're not monitoring the sensor near the air filter? The other sensor in the intake manifold would probably read 200*+ since it's all just metal bolted to the 200*+ engine.
I monitor it at the intake and dont notice a drop in temp till driving wether it be from air flow or pressure at a idle it increases and cools while diiving and with it in the intake it averages 10* hotter than ambient air temp unless its over 90* out side than its 15 to 20* so Im not if Im getting false readings or not but the stock CAC seems pretty efficant intake air is relativly cool compared to claims of 200* + temps claimed by companys selling there brand of CACs
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[What method are you using to monitor it? Are you sure you're not monitoring the sensor near the air filter? The other sensor in the intake manifold would probably read 200*+ since it's all just metal bolted to the 200*+ engine.[/QUOTE]
What does the secound sensor do and where exactly is it located. I thought the IAT was the one on the air box.
What does the secound sensor do and where exactly is it located. I thought the IAT was the one on the air box.
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The "MAP" sensor mounted on top of the intake manifold is also a dual purpose temp/pressure sensor.
AFAIK the one in the box is considered the IAT. Monitoring that figure won't tell you how efficient the IC is though, unless you're also monitoring it on the other end to compare the two.
AFAIK the one in the box is considered the IAT. Monitoring that figure won't tell you how efficient the IC is though, unless you're also monitoring it on the other end to compare the two.
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Map/air temp sensor?
The "MAP" sensor mounted on top of the intake manifold is also a dual purpose temp/pressure sensor.
AFAIK the one in the box is considered the IAT. Monitoring that figure won't tell you how efficient the IC is though, unless you're also monitoring it on the other end to compare the two.
AFAIK the one in the box is considered the IAT. Monitoring that figure won't tell you how efficient the IC is though, unless you're also monitoring it on the other end to compare the two.
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sorry jrussel and treedr just saw the thread again I have a three in one gauge from dakota digital egt boost and a temp sensor for a auto but with my manual I felt iat would be a better thing to monitor its drilled and threaded into the intake right above the grid heater
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sorry jrussel and treedr just saw the thread again I have a three in one gauge from dakota digital egt boost and a temp sensor for a auto but with my manual I felt iat would be a better thing to monitor its drilled and threaded into the intake right above the grid heater
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2 different sensors. Both feed their info to the ECM for fueling adjustments though, and both reffered to as IAT!
The combination, dual function Intake Manifold Air Temperature Sensor/MAP Sensor (2) is installed into the top of the intake manifold.
The combination, dual function Inlet Air Temperature/Pressure Sensor (4) is located on the air cleaner (filter) cover
The combination, dual function Intake Manifold Air Temperature Sensor/MAP Sensor (2) is installed into the top of the intake manifold.
The combination, dual function Inlet Air Temperature/Pressure Sensor (4) is located on the air cleaner (filter) cover
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2 different sensors. Both feed their info to the ECM for fueling adjustments though, and both reffered to as IAT!
The combination, dual function Intake Manifold Air Temperature Sensor/MAP Sensor (2) is installed into the top of the intake manifold.
The IAT portion of the sensor provides an input voltage to the Engine Control Module (ECM) indicating intake manifold air temperature. The MAP
portion of the sensor provides an input voltage to the ECM indicating turbocharger boost pressure.
The combination, dual function Inlet Air Temperature/Pressure Sensor (4) is located on the air cleaner (filter) cover
The Inlet Air Temperature/Pressure Sensor is a combination dual-function sensor. The sensor element extends into the intake air stream at the top of the air filter housing. Ambient air temperature as well as barometric pressure is monitored by this sensor.
The combination, dual function Intake Manifold Air Temperature Sensor/MAP Sensor (2) is installed into the top of the intake manifold.
The IAT portion of the sensor provides an input voltage to the Engine Control Module (ECM) indicating intake manifold air temperature. The MAP
portion of the sensor provides an input voltage to the ECM indicating turbocharger boost pressure.
The combination, dual function Inlet Air Temperature/Pressure Sensor (4) is located on the air cleaner (filter) cover
The Inlet Air Temperature/Pressure Sensor is a combination dual-function sensor. The sensor element extends into the intake air stream at the top of the air filter housing. Ambient air temperature as well as barometric pressure is monitored by this sensor.
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My fan went out a three months ago and I haven't had time to replace the clutch. I have since added a 16" 2500cfm electic fan (40 bucks off eBay) for AC purposes mostly since I sit and idle a lot while working. The 2500cfm seems to do a heck of a job cooling the truck, granted I haven't been pulling over 4k in awhile. However with normal driving, the truck rarely gets hot, low speeds with the AC was the only time it would start to get warm, this is without the electric fan.