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EGTs w/ Crazy Larry seem low? Or just Autometer gauge??

Old Aug 30, 2006 | 05:35 PM
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EGTs w/ Crazy Larry seem low? Or just Autometer gauge??

I just installed my CL program off the triple dog and am enjoying it so far. I haven't been able to really lay into it too much, just a couple of blasts in 3rd and 4th gear, but what I have noticed is very low EGTs.....shockingly low.

The truck has an AFE Stage II intake, MBRP (DPPI) 4" muffler, 4" cat delete pipe, and Glacier Diesel MK2 filter kit w/ big line. I have a Glacier fuel system, just haven't installed it yet.

Full throttle run from 1500 RPM in 3rd through 3300 RPM in 4th gear only results in around 800 degree EGTs. I don't know how slow the Autometer EGTs are to respond, but my previous expereiences with them in the past wasn't too disappointing. Is the CL tune without stacking mild enough to not have excessive EGTs? Or will they only climb up to the 1200+ degree range over a full 1/4 mile pass?

Also, I found one other post from a guy having the same problem, but w/ the CL tune, the throttle sometimes doesn't respond. I can run it up to 3300-3400 RPM in 3rd gear, clutch in for 4th, and the tach will peg 3500 RPM. It won't go away until I let out the clutch in 4th. After being quite concerned, I went to the performance tune and the problem went away. I then switched back to the CL tune and problem went away, but it takes about a second for the throttle to drop off.....worlds better than increasing to the limiter!! Any ideas??

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Old Aug 30, 2006 | 06:05 PM
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something isn't right....i can hit 1300-1400* no problem....and i have autometer gauges.....they work great...i dont know what to tell you.
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Old Aug 30, 2006 | 06:31 PM
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I Can Peg 1600 All Day In Wifes Mega Cab
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Old Aug 30, 2006 | 07:02 PM
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ive been able to hit 1500 on a regular basis
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Old Aug 30, 2006 | 08:43 PM
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the hottest i can get my 06 with crazy larry is 971 degrees thats what the outlook said, i dont think something is right though. Only runs about 32 psi boost. It runs 32psi on stock and on crazy larry, somebody told me that bully dog does not boost fool but i dont care what anybody says you add that much horsepower it WILL raise boost, my buddys 06 with the same box will run 40psi boost on performance. i drove it i know for a fact.
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Old Aug 30, 2006 | 09:01 PM
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First, something is wrong with the gauge. The truck should hit more than 800 degrees on that same run when it is stock. Also you are pre-turbo correct? If you are post turbo then it may not be too far off?

Smokin06,

You cacn believe what you want but the 04.5-06 trucks have an electric wastegate and I don't care how much fuel you burn when the wastegate open it will bleed boost off in a hurry. You might get it to spik eup to 33-34psi but it will bleed off instantly. So unless you do some boost fooling you are not going to get over 32psi.

Also is your pyro pre or post turbo? I am thinking something is wrong with both of your gauges. A stock 600 series motor should run near 1300 degrees pre turbo when it is stock. In perfect air with a new or built tranny it might be slightly cooler than that but not less than 12xx degrees.

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Old Aug 30, 2006 | 09:02 PM
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less air more heat unless you are over spinning the turbo then you will also have heat. hell my truck will run 900 degs. just going up a hill part throttle around town
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Old Aug 30, 2006 | 09:10 PM
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Thats why im on here i am new to the electronic injection, i just sold my 97 12v that dynoed at 689hp and ran it on the street daily, i had to run 1/4 throttle in it to keep it under 1500, anyway, my 06 the pyro is post turbo, i have the outlook monitor, it only runs about 550 degrees just running around i cant get it over 1,000 i dont think something is right, but as for the boost i understand what you are saying but i drove my buddys 06 dually with the same box and outlook monitor and his would hit 40psi i drove it for 2 days but it also ran 1400 degrees that was only on performance, please inform me of what i can and cant do to the wastegate it has a huge sensor sticking out of the turbo, where can i get a boost fooler, 32 psi boost is not getting it i am used to 70+ on my 12v. Please help.
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Old Aug 30, 2006 | 09:13 PM
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My probe is pre-turbo, so I have to look into the problem. Maybe my probe is faulty. I'll pull the gauge and make sure everything appears correct w/ the install. I'm starting to doubt if I fully tightened the nuts on the rear of the gauge from the probe wires. Hopefully that is the problem and it will fix the problem.

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Quad...when's your boost fooler going to be available??? I want one!
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Old Aug 30, 2006 | 09:33 PM
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Well, nope....that wasn't the issue. Install is perfect. It looks like the location of my drilled hole is near a bridge inside the manifold, but it doesn't appear the probe made any contact with it, assuming that would even make a difference.

This isn't the first time I have had a faulty autometer sending unit/sensor. Time to give them a call in the morning.
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Old Aug 30, 2006 | 10:59 PM
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smokin06,

Either your buddies gauge is whacked up or he had some plug in module that he was stacking with it even if it was in the off position. The BDDL is not going to make more than 33-34 at a peak and then it will settle to 32psi. Same goes for the Flashpaq and the Diablo. Now the Smarty says it will go over 32 psi but, if it does that I do not see how it is not traceable?

Also put your probe pre-turbo. The post turbo readings are all over the place on the newer trucks and the new turbos seem to dissapate a lot more heat than the older designed turbos. I would say that there can be a 400+ degree difference on the new trucks at WOT.

LooseboltsRob,

I responded to another thread but, they are in production now and I am hoping we can maybe start getting some out sometime at the end of next week? That may be a few days optimistic but it will be close to that.


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Old Aug 30, 2006 | 11:44 PM
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I am having the same problem with my BDDL only I have the power pup and am on Extreme setting. My egts never get over 1200 degrees (I ran up a 7% grade at 80 mph today and was able to get to 1250 degrees) and my boost never ever ever gets over 15 psi. I have Autometer gauges. I was thinking the gauges were both wrong but now I am starting to think otherwise. Would a fuel supply problem lend itself to these symptoms? I don't make smoke, don't make boost and don't make EGT's?
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Old Aug 31, 2006 | 12:02 AM
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As stated in another thread, what does the truck do stock or without the downloader?
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Old Aug 31, 2006 | 12:22 AM
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my boost never goes over 15 psi no matter how I set up...with downloader or without...with module or without and ever bone stock.

EGT's do run higher with the downloader and module...peak at about 1100 or so stock ...go up to 1250 with both on high.
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Old Aug 31, 2006 | 12:28 AM
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If I remember right you just got this truck recently? Try changing the fuel filter and see what happens.
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