Well that kinda sucks, and would defeat the purpose of having one for 2 cars. How does it know that it's on one vehicle? Couldn't you "reset" the smarty by killing it's power? I don't mean to try and find loopholes, but I can't see spending 1200 bones just to let the second truck have some extra power, too. I suppose I'll have to give TST or the likes a call in the AM and see what I can figure out.

 

how does that suck that it only works on 1 vehicle at a time? does an intake, exhaust, turbo, or a set of tires work on 2 vehicles at a time? How would any manufacturer stay in business if everyone can let his buddies use it all the time. if that was the case, i should have gotten 20 people to chip in and buy 1, share it and save me money.


the idea of borrowing the smarty is to give you a taste of the features, see how your vehicle performs with it, and allow you to make an informed descision as to your purchase.

if you have paid attention, only the power boosting programs are vehicle specific, the ability to clear and read DTC's are allowed on any obd2 vehicle, not just the one that the smarty is VIN locked to.

 

It sucks that it can't be used on two at once is because that would've been my only reason for buying one. Otherwise, I feel there are other mods that I could do I'd be just as happy with for less. Like I said I'm not trying to find loopholes, rob anyone of their justifiably earned money, or be cheap. I'm sure the smarty is a great product and worth it even if it's only allowed on one truck. Sorry if I offended you, that's just how I look at it. I'm also sorry if that bothers anyone on the smarty "bandwagon", but I won't be discussing this anywhere further. If you feel the need to prove a point, please PM me as theres no point in going further off topic in this thread.

I do feel the need to point out that I come from the world of DSM's (www.dsmtuners.com, if your curious or unaware), and the tuning software I used on my car was also useable on other cars for a small fee (~ $20). It was designed this way buy the manufacturer, as they didn't see the point in charging full price for multiple copies if in the end it was still one user.

 

Do you copy your DVD's onto your own personal IPOD?? or have the CD and also pay for the songs download..

or make a copy of your CD's one for the house and one for the car.. or do you buy 2 cd's one for the house or car..

Same thing just different applications..

I won't buy a Downlaoder just because of what HOOKED is discussing here.. Who knows what program they are putting back in your truck.. Look at the older Bully dog programmers.. they were putting a south American program back in. I am sure Marco is a great guy and can be trusted.. but in the end we are the ones that have to pay the dealer to try and get it back to where it was if the downloader makes a mistake..

Personally I think if I were to try a performance enhancement it would have to be a box.. If I don't like it or it doesn't work well on my truck then I can take it off it is EXACTLY as it was before the box..

It's like everything else .. so many products, which one is best .. all opinion..

 

modules have been known to generate trouble as well as programmers. if your module generates a cel, are you going to remove the module and try to convince your dealer that you dont know the cause in order for them to honor the warranty? I used the word HONOR.

cd's?


This discussion is quickly getting off topic. Started by an individual and answered by several who have not read the literature or viewed the website in it's entirety. I applaude those members who admitted to not reading it all.

This is becoming another smarty/marco bash. Some vendors develop and market a product, buy advertising, and sell them only to not answer pm's, emails, and calls when there is trouble. Marco is constantly here answer ?'s, deal with problems, some people even went so far last month to badger him into trying to give up proprietary info on how his product perfoms as it does. You fella's say get off the smarty bandwagon. You guys are on the bash smarty bandwagon. Try it, buy it, dont, whatever. Tell you what, you dont want to spend $650 on a smarty, go buy someone else's stuff, starting with a B, and see how often they post on forums, or bend over backward to help. another example: quad will make special, custom proms for customers who have unique problems. Try getting THAT kind of service from some other companies.

 

WOW, this IS getting out there isn't it?

I bought the Smarty and the Quad BECAUSE of the customer support I have seen on this and other forums. I have read all the arguments, pros and cons, etc, but am still impressed with those who get out here and take the time with the consumers.

Multiple vehicle use - I guess if I had several trucks, I would be looking at finding out if I would get some kind of discount for multiple purchases - like a group buy might get. I suppose Marco could possibly make a unit that would VIN lock to several at one time, that idea does have possibilities. When you buy a box, it more or less hard wires into the vehicle, so that IS a one-vehicle application, why would the rules not be the same for a programmer? It all makes sense to me.

I HAVE read all the information on the all the websites regarding all the stuff I could have possibly purchased, did it before making any purchasing decisions, was a fully informed consumer. Isn't that WHY the put all that stuff on the websites? You also get a printed copy of all their information with their stuff when it hits your doorway. Both Quad and Smarty would surely refund you the purchase $$$'s right up front if you were not happy with the product or decided you did not want their units because of the single vehicle specifics, at least they ARE geared to customer satisfaction.

CD

 

This is the last comment I'll make about it. I'm not bashing Smarty, or any other products. I'm not bashing the bandwagon, as I'm sure I'd be on if I tried one. I also fully admit I haven't read all the info. Sure, I'd love to be able to use one on both trucks, as I just can't see spending 650 bucks twice. I got my answer, and even went as far to say that I'd be giving TST a call or the likes to see what I could come up with. I wasn't asking to do anything Illegal, just asking if there was a way to save a few bones.

That is all.

 

Marco,
AGAIN, very well put. Don't you really wish people did a little research before opening their mouths and being sooo suprised at the result of their actions.

 

a little research? Ummm.... He isn't the first one with problems after putting the truck back to stock after using a Smarty.

I think you guys think "hooked" is a total moron.... I bet any amount of money that his 01 has more power than most of your guys 2 trucks combined.

Hooked, I'm not at all suprised with the response your getting...

 

Hey Hooked, Can you tell me any details on the BioDiesel you run? Is it B20, B100?

The reason I ask, is that I have been getting some CR injectors here that have run Bio and they are damaged unlike anything I have ever seen.

Just a thought Man.

 

Oh Oh, and I bet my Dad can beat your Dad up
Luken, It is pretty obvious that you hate the Smarty, and that is fine. But understand your opinion as a BORROWER is not very valued regarding the SmartyCR to people who have questions for Smarty OWNERS. You are just about alone w/ the issue you had a I think you have beat it to death by now.

Just my .02 and I'm not alone

 

Don M.

I am running MFA Soydiesel (B5).... And yes Bob i am from Missouri not sure why it matters? My check cashed thats all that should have mattered... Im not a smarty hater at all i like mine i just want my stock program back is that so hard to figure out? I understand where Luken is comming from as well... i got flamed on here just stating a problem not a Major problem but a problem non the less...i just want people to be informed before you borrow one.. Owning one is anrother story it doesnt bother me to bad because i dont run stock that often...Lukens deal is a whole different can of beans i still havent and wont post my full opinion on Lukens expierence with the Smarty.....

 

LOL... People like you crack me up!

I don't hate the Smarty. I have been around a few trucks that the Smarty works great on. * I hate what the Smarty did to my truck.

I don't know why your digging this up again... I understand that I BORROWED the Smarty therefore I shouldn't get any help. DISCLAIMER If you borrow a Smarty and it screws your truck up... Beware that you shouldn't be entitled to any help. How stupid does that sound?

Just my .02 and I'm not alone

This is about hooked's truck. He DID buy a Smarty.

 

Which takes us back to the TITLE of the thread, Don't BORROW one.

 

My advise would be buy two Power Pucks off Ebay - one for each truck. They are selling for $200 each.