[QUOTE Why can we not have a progressive table of timing settings from most to least or least to most?[/QUOTE]

AMEN!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Below is copied and pasted from Mads. IT SAYS that default has two timing settings - #1 for even SWs and #2 for odd SWs. Therefore, this statement you made is wrong. #2 on SW3 would have the same timing as if set to default.

You are driving ME nuts.
vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv from Mads

The timing has two defaults. # 1 for the
even numbered SW's ( stock timing ) # 2 for the odd numbered SW ( advanced timing ). To avoid confusion and to help the customer
in returning all levels to default ( if need be ), key # 0 is used to return Smarty back to the default levels.

 

I would really like to see more explanation on this. I was under the same impression as omaharam. That the most timing in TNT REVO was #2 which is equal to Default #0 on SW 1,3,5,7,9.

 

Tried timing #1 on the way to work this morning, and frankly, I can't tell the difference comparing to #2. But this is a beta version so some tweaking may have happened for the final release. This evening I'll switch to #0.

So I say everyone try the different timing levels and find the one that works best for you.

MikeyB

 

Im talking about the TNT file, not the REVO which has different Timing setup,
from personal experience on Timing #0 I get timing rattle and it very noticeable, but on Timing #2 it goes away.

 

YES IT IS .....................

 

What are you saying yes to-that default timing(0) is the same as timing 2....b/c earlier you said that default(0) has the most advanced(you agreed with hintz) so which is it? We all want some clarity

 

what Bob is saying is 0 AND 2 are the SAME timing on ODD numbers and
0 AND 1 are the SAME on EVEN numbers

o is just and easy way to return to default that's all

 

Both!!!

Default timing set to an odd SW is the same timing as setting two. The only difference when you set timing to #2 is that ALL the SWs have that amount of timing - odd and even SWs. On default only the odd SWs have the added timing.

 

That copy and paste IS from the REVO TNT instructions, not the regular REVO.

Bob just confirmed my understanding and explanation of the settings.

 

I called Bob, & was able to talk to him this afternoon, & what Omaha said is right. #0, & #2 are the same timing map. The only difference is when you set #2, & use an even SW #. So in a nutshell the default timing is an aftermarket injecter map. Which is what I wanted to know. So there it is. From the horses mouth.

 

Well it's about time! This really needs to be a sticky.

MikeyB

 

Omaha and I talked about this very same thing on the Link posted above. I went into a very detailed explanation on it. Let me post it again.

Richard

 

Some of the information in some of the posts by other users is correct. I am not here to step on toes but to give you guys the right information.

The following information is for the TNT tune. The same will be true for the REVO(a bit different on the options though).

As far as the timing goes, here is the jist of it. The smarty as we used to know it will ALWAYS be the default setting in the "adjust options" menu. The even number softwares will have the stock timing (number 1 in the adjust options menu)while the odd numbered softwares will be the advanced timing (number 2 in the adjust options menu).
Now, with the the TNT and the REVO tunes we can adjust not only the power levels, but the desired timing. Now we can make our own choices when it comes to timing and it works in this manner.

Remember that the HP levels with the TNT or TNT-R tune DO NOT follow the older REVO (old smarty program) setting of:
30
60
60 w/timing
90
90 w/timing
and so on........


On the TNT and TNTR; tune #1 and #2 can have a 50, 60, 70, 80 HP difference between each number setting. This is part of the reason for the timing adjusability. As an example, lets say for your truck #3 makes the most power but the timing is too much for the injector. You can go into the adjust options menu and select the timing option you want to be present for all of the software settings. Now I will explain the options for timing.


In the "adjust options menu", we see the following(TNT Tune)

Speed Limiter

Torque managment

Shift defuel

And now our favorite: TIMING

#0-default: All this setting means is that the Smarty will behave like the smarty of old. Odd numbers for added timing (which is equal to number 2 in the adjust options menu), even numbers add no timing (which is equal to number 1 in the adjust options menu). This is again the default setting for the smarty.

#1-Stock. As the name suggests. This option sets ALL of the softwares to run the factory(stock) timing in software numbers 1-9.

#2-Advanced-As the name suggests. This option sets ALL of the softwares to run the advanced timing in software numbers 1-9. This is the most agessive or advanced timing setting in the smarty.

#3-Hugh Aftermarket Injectors-This option sets ALL of the softwares to run the Hugh Aftermarket Injectors timing in software numbers 1-9. As the instructions indicate. The timing here is not as advanced as the #2 setting.

#4-N.O.S-This option sets ALL of the softwares to run the Hugh Aftermarket Injectors timing in software numbers 1-9. As the instructions indicate. The timing here is slight more advanced than the stock (#1) setting.


Lastly:

Rail Pressure

and Wastegate for 05 and up trucks with the electronic acctuator.
What setting is right for you depends on your set-up.



I also wanted to add that I do not personally know how much the timing is advanced (degrees before TDC) is in the smarty verses stock. As it has been documented before, do not stack multiple power adders with timing as you will surely melt a piston with too much timing. Always allow only one power adder with stacks to do the timing.


****SIde Note: The REVO version follows a diffrent timing map!!!****


When asking questions make sure to state if it is th REVO or TNT program.


Hope this helps.


Richard
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Well if that won't make you understand the timing and other settings on the Smarty, then get rid of it and get something else. LOL. Thanks raychem.