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Old Dec 2, 2007 | 09:07 PM
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i might be buyin a 04 cummins 6spd 4x4 and was wondering wat is the best programmer or chip out there, i want something in the high hundreds, i have a 1st gen now so im not used to all of this plug in power, i know that many people have many different opinions on chips and programmers but ill take all the advice i can get
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Old Dec 2, 2007 | 09:10 PM
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Smarty or a Predator. I like the Smarty personally, the support here on the forums is great from Bob and Marco.
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Old Dec 2, 2007 | 09:11 PM
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Smarty!!!!!
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Old Dec 2, 2007 | 09:13 PM
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wats the hp and tq for a smarty
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Old Dec 2, 2007 | 09:19 PM
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please say box or downloader, programmer. its not a chip. you can only chip a 7.3 powerstroke. get a smarty
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Old Dec 2, 2007 | 09:22 PM
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is there any other programmers besides a superchip that will adjust your speedo for oversized tires
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Old Dec 2, 2007 | 09:23 PM
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150hp increase and roughly 280-300ft-lb with supporting mods for an 04, but the potential is great.
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Old Dec 2, 2007 | 09:23 PM
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please say box or downloader, programmer. its not a chip. you can only chip a 7.3 powerstroke. get a smarty
sorry bud like i said im new to all of this electrical stuff
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Old Dec 2, 2007 | 09:35 PM
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sorry bud like i said im new to all of this electrical stuff
I wasnt trying to be mean. sorry to come off in a mean way. It gets under my skin when ppl say chip. an 04 should be a good trk for you. do you know if it is an 04 or 04.5? if its an 04.5 it will love the mods
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Old Dec 2, 2007 | 09:36 PM
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Smarty!!!!!!!!
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Old Dec 2, 2007 | 10:40 PM
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is there any other programmers besides a superchip that will adjust your speedo for oversized tires
I believe Smarty does that. I haven't done it on mine yet though
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Old Dec 2, 2007 | 10:44 PM
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is there any other programmers besides a superchip that will adjust your speedo for oversized tires
Smarty will do that and the speed limiter too and soon the rev limiter.
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Old Dec 3, 2007 | 07:51 AM
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i might be buyin a 04 cummins 6spd 4x4 and was wondering wat is the best programmer or chip out there, i want something in the high hundreds, i have a 1st gen now so im not used to all of this plug in power, i know that many people have many different opinions on chips and programmers but ill take all the advice i can get
Best chip, I am gonna go with ruffles. Sorry I am such a wisea.s.s. TST adds a ton of power but you need some supporting mods like turbo, fuel and trans to really get the most out of it. The smarty is polly the best bang for your buck, on the 03-04 it adds 130 or something like that and on the 04.5+ it adds 170! Pretty impressive. Do you know if you are looking at an 04 vs. 04.5?

04 = build prior to 1/04, I think and it is either 235 or 305 hp, it says on the valve cover

04.5 = build after 1/04 and it is the 325/600 motors.
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Old Dec 3, 2007 | 10:23 AM
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Smoke'Em, sorry to hijack...but i have to ask, if smarty gives 170 more hp on the 04.5+ which is very impressive i must say, but can a stock auto tranny handle that? whats the limit the stock auto tranny can hold without issues?
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Old Dec 3, 2007 | 10:30 AM
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Smoke'Em, sorry to hijack...but i have to ask, if smarty gives 170 more hp on the 04.5+ which is very impressive i must say, but can a stock auto tranny handle that? whats the limit the stock auto tranny can hold without issues?
A stock trans can only handle as much as the right foot of the driver. That being said most people say the rule of thumb with a good stock trans is about 70-100rwhp over stock. Even with my lowly juice/ramifier stack I am pushing my stock trans pretty hard on the upper levels of my juice. If the trans is lower mileage I have a valve body and torque converter will help out the cause. My trans is a bit too old for that at 129k miles so I am saving up for a new one with a billet input shaft and such...
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