3rd Gen High Performance and Accessories (5.9L Only) Talk about Dodge/Cummins aftermarket products for third generation trucks here. Can include high-performance mods, or general accessories. THIS IS FOR THE 5.9L ONLY!

Best programmer for my 07 5.9

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Mar 25, 2010 | 09:06 PM
  #16  
2002_d's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 12
Likes: 0
From: Lexington, TN
I half to ask what about the Diablo Sport Predator Programmer good r bad.
Reply
Old Mar 25, 2010 | 09:11 PM
  #17  
michael/edge's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 312
Likes: 0
From: wyoming
i was told diablo is built by banks or diablo is branch from banks something like that. never seen one on a cummins but i seen a powerstoke come to life with it
Reply
Old Mar 25, 2010 | 10:14 PM
  #18  
bansh-eman's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 1,719
Likes: 0
From: Houston
Originally Posted by michael/edge
any programmer or chip is traceable so it does leave a footprint.
Read up more on the Smarty, leaves no trace.
Reply
Old Mar 26, 2010 | 08:22 AM
  #19  
michael/edge's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 312
Likes: 0
From: wyoming
Originally Posted by bansh-eman
Read up more on the Smarty, leaves no trace.
there was a an ariticle about in a previous diesel power or diesel world magazine how all programmers and chips are traceable. there is lot of them out there they claim they are not traceable.
Reply
Old Mar 26, 2010 | 08:27 AM
  #20  
gpshemi's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 579
Likes: 0
Yeah I don't buy that either. A tech once told me they can find anything if they look hard enough. Most just don't.

I gotta think even if it restores key counts and all that other stuff, that there's still evidence somewhere of it running out of Dodge specifications.

Besides...I'm not really into screwing Dodge over. I don't want to be denied for something the programmer didn't do either though. I still take it off when I go in.
Reply
Old Mar 26, 2010 | 09:40 AM
  #21  
madhat's Avatar
Administrator/Jarhead
 
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 14,965
Likes: 19
From: Jacksonville, NC
The smarty will not leave a trace that IT was there, but if you have a good mech, he will know that SOMETHING was there. Over boost, high RP, speed, etc, will be stored. They will know that the truck was taken out of it's stock form.
Reply
Old Mar 26, 2010 | 10:02 AM
  #22  
no_6_oh_no's Avatar
Banned
 
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 2,756
Likes: 1
From: McDonough GA
Originally Posted by madhat
The smarty will not leave a trace that IT was there, but if you have a good mech, he will know that SOMETHING was there. Over boost, high RP, speed, etc, will be stored. They will know that the truck was taken out of it's stock form.
Exactly, the ECU snapshots engine parameters when a DTC is generated for diagnostic purposes. AFAIK, most dealers cannot access this info but if they either call in the regional tech reps or send the ECU in it can be dumped.

You burn an engine down and generate DTC's and there will be captured info.

All the programmers do what they advertise, add power. Not positive there is a "best" for safety, they will ALL cause failure. Your single best control and monitoring system is a set of gauges and your right foot.
Reply
Old Mar 26, 2010 | 10:17 AM
  #23  
ib516's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 520
Likes: 0
From: Sask, Canada
I know Smarty is the popular choice on this forum, and I have nothing bad to say about it. That said, I have a Hypertech Max Energy that I have been running on my truck (in the middle setting) for the past year with no issues at all. Even hauling a 20,000# GCW load through the Canadian Rockies with no EGT issues.
Reply
Old Mar 26, 2010 | 01:37 PM
  #24  
madhat's Avatar
Administrator/Jarhead
 
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 14,965
Likes: 19
From: Jacksonville, NC
ib516: Good post. I do love my smarty, and think the world of it as a programmer, but there are a lot of programmers out there that will work for others needs just as good, if not better, than a smarty.

It's all about what you want to do.
Reply
Old Mar 26, 2010 | 05:42 PM
  #25  
michael/edge's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 312
Likes: 0
From: wyoming
Originally Posted by madhat
ib516: Good post. I do love my smarty, and think the world of it as a programmer, but there are a lot of programmers out there that will work for others needs just as good, if not better, than a smarty.

It's all about what you want to do.




100 hundred guys and a hundred different ways to do things all to your own taste.
Reply
Old Mar 26, 2010 | 07:29 PM
  #26  
2002_d's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 12
Likes: 0
From: Lexington, TN
Thanks yall!!! i really like this fourm any body can give u good advice!! but i just cant make my mind up lol
Reply
Old Mar 26, 2010 | 08:14 PM
  #27  
OldDodgeOwner's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 830
Likes: 1
From: Wheatland, WY
I just bought an 06 3500. From everything I've read, I think I'm going to go with the Smarty JR.
Reply
Old Mar 30, 2010 | 08:30 PM
  #28  
dave31's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Mar 2010
Posts: 13
Likes: 0
From: Granbury,TX
I have a predator programmer, it does provide a bunch of power. The only drawback is it takes up to ten minutes to download and in cold conditions it has a rough high idle in warm up.
Reply
Old Mar 30, 2010 | 10:21 PM
  #29  
2002_d's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 12
Likes: 0
From: Lexington, TN
Originally Posted by dave31
I have a predator programmer, it does provide a bunch of power. The only drawback is it takes up to ten minutes to download and in cold conditions it has a rough high idle in warm up.
How bad?
Reply
Old Mar 30, 2010 | 10:40 PM
  #30  
dave31's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Mar 2010
Posts: 13
Likes: 0
From: Granbury,TX
Not bad it only does it when it below freezing.
Reply



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:58 PM.