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Old Dec 27, 2007 | 09:41 PM
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Arrowcraft and larger tires (DRW) - Rubber Gurus needed

I know this subject has been flogged to death, I've read a bunch of previous threads, but I still have a couple questions.

I have a 2004 Quad cab long box DRW, I'm running stock wheels and tires at the moment.

I want to run larger tires, I intend to install a KORE HD levelling kit, and I have already purchased 2" spacers from Arrowcraft. I intend to run Toyo Open Country MT's.

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1) When installing the Arrowcraft spacers, it seems I'll need to bore out the outside wheels for larger lugs. I assume this means I won't be able to rotate these to other positions - will I still be able to rotate the remaining 4 wheels around the truck?

2) I originally intended on running the 35x12.5R17 Toyos, but I really like the way 33" tires look on these trucks. I figure the slightly narrower profile will fit the stock wheels better and give me slightly better traction on snow and ice. I'm also off road a bit and I assume the 33" tires will be less likely to rub when I'm only running the levelling kit.

With this in mind, will Toyo's LT295/70R17 128P E/10 (33X11.50R17) tires work with my setup?


This picture (Ramasaur's truck) is the general look I'm going for, but without the lift. She's a beauty.



The tires are going to be expensive - I want to make sure I've done all my research before pulling the trigger, so any thoughts or experience will be appreciated.

Thanks, -Mike
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Old Dec 27, 2007 | 11:57 PM
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Yes this subject has been beat to death, I have 295 toyos and 2" arrowcraft spacers, at roughly the stock height. No rubbing anywhere.

Arrowcraft recommended to bore out all the rims, and rotate as normal, that seems kind of shady to me so I rotate the inside 4 and keep less air pressure on the outside duals, hoping they wear a little slower.

You cant use the center cap on the rear duals, and there is a bit of a lip on the 295 tire that busted all the clips off of the wheel skins, they are now zipped tied on
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Old Dec 28, 2007 | 05:06 AM
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What is the purpose of boring out the rims? I am looking into this still.A member on here is using 1 1/2" spacers between the wheels with a 1/4" between the hub and inner wheel so the lugs don't need to be cut.If you have to cut and hack the wheels up I dont think I am going to do this.
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Old Dec 28, 2007 | 06:47 AM
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You have to bore the rims out to convert from hubcentric to lugcentric. They send a reamin bit to you and it is pretty much idiot proof. To make your centercaps work put a washer and nut on the outside of the nuts arrowcraft sends to you so the "fingers" on the center cap have something to hold on to.

FWIW, I will not rotate my rear tires anymore, just the fronts. I may have to buy 2 fronts premeturely but thats a lot better than 6.
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Old Dec 28, 2007 | 07:28 AM
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BlueDually, do you have any pictures of the 295's on your DRW?

I didn't realize you are supposed to bore out all the rims. If they are all bored out for larger lugs how do they still mount up front? Wap, did you bore out all 6 wheels or just the two outside duals?
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Old Dec 28, 2007 | 10:27 AM
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I dont have any pics, but I could meet with you sometime if your in the edm area
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Old Dec 28, 2007 | 10:48 AM
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No kidding - I didn't even notice you were in Alberta

I live near Calgary and I'm working up in the Hinton area right now, maybe I could meet your for a beer or coffee on my way to or from work sometime.

I'd love to see the 33's mounted with the Arrowcraft spacers before ordering my rubber.
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Old Dec 28, 2007 | 03:20 PM
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I just bored out the 2 outside duals. I (this is just my opinion) would not bore out all 6, just doesnt seem like a good idea to me.

33s would be nice, if you get 12.50s. I have posted it before but... I personally think you need at least a 305 with a 2" spacer. My tires look ok but I have a set of 315 mtzs waitin on my at the tire shop just as soon as I have time to go get them, wich will be after the first of the year, but after I get them installed I will wash my truck and take some pics.
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Old Dec 29, 2007 | 05:46 PM
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Here's another question,

Are there adapters available to go over the hubs to maintain the hub-centric setup of the stock wheels when using the Arrowcraft spacers? (see pictures below)



I'm not sure if it's a big deal, but I've read that lug-centric wheels are not as strong as a hub-centric setup.
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Old Dec 29, 2007 | 07:55 PM
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From what I've read on this so far I think 2" spacers are not hubcentric but 1 1/2" spacers are.This will leave some of your studs exposed and the solutions are to grind them down or simply put a 1/4" spacer behind the inner wheel.
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Old Dec 29, 2007 | 09:06 PM
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No stud cutting with a 2" spacer. 1 1/2 you do.
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Old Dec 30, 2007 | 12:00 PM
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If i were to run 285's with a 5/16th spacer between duals would that work? Also would the 1/4 or 5/16 spacer need to be a "hubcentric spacer"?? If there even is such a thing(I think i read something about that)??
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Old Dec 30, 2007 | 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by 06dually
If i were to run 285's with a 5/16th spacer between duals would that work? Also would the 1/4 or 5/16 spacer need to be a "hubcentric spacer"?? If there even is such a thing(I think i read something about that)??
The 285's would probably touch.These are the 265's on my truck with a 1/4" spacer.The 1/4 " spacer simply slip over you factory lugs so your wheel is still supported by the hub.

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Old Dec 30, 2007 | 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by homewrecker
The 285's would probably touch.These are the 265's on my truck with a 1/4" spacer.The 1/4 " spacer simply slip over you factory lugs so your wheel is still supported by the hub.

How much do you catch on the lugs with your nut?? Would an extra 1/16th (5/16th spacer) make a difference??
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Old Dec 31, 2007 | 06:30 AM
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Another 1/16" will fit but wont do you any good for a 285.They might not touch unloaded but will be too close for any towing.
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