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02-04-2004, 06:26 PM
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Whoops, you are right Gary, I breezed in and looked around then hooked 'em, should have investigated a little further.
I had to chuckle when I read your earlier statement about having been to hell and back on this issue. I've read some of your posts in other threads, I know you've done extensive research and your disappointment is justified.
Not sure about the center caps from the prior body style but it's a thought. That's one thing that intrigued me about Vaughns conversation with Weld Racing. My current set of Weld Typhoons have a lug nut cover which is attached to the wheel with (2) stainless steel allen head screws. I think Weld would offer a lug cover kit for our trucks if they are serious about bringing out the wheels we need (backspacing and center hole wise)
As stated in my intial post in this thread, we are a small audience but will grow as these trucks continue to be produced!
Dang deep backspacing and 122mm center hole!
I had to chuckle when I read your earlier statement about having been to hell and back on this issue. I've read some of your posts in other threads, I know you've done extensive research and your disappointment is justified.
Not sure about the center caps from the prior body style but it's a thought. That's one thing that intrigued me about Vaughns conversation with Weld Racing. My current set of Weld Typhoons have a lug nut cover which is attached to the wheel with (2) stainless steel allen head screws. I think Weld would offer a lug cover kit for our trucks if they are serious about bringing out the wheels we need (backspacing and center hole wise)
As stated in my intial post in this thread, we are a small audience but will grow as these trucks continue to be produced!
Dang deep backspacing and 122mm center hole!
02-04-2004, 06:40 PM
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I have a very good friend in Dallas who would give us a good deal on these, I will do some homework tomorrow and see if we can get them chromed, I thinking about 1500 -1700 to our specs, chromed, no triple chromed, we need to agree on the same wheel,,,,Looks like it has to be a 17x9.5
I have a very good friend in Dallas who would give us a good deal on these, I will do some homework tomorrow and see if we can get them chromed, I thinking about 1500 -1700 to our specs, chromed, no triple chromed, we need to agree on the same wheel,,,,Looks like it has to be a 17x9.5
02-04-2004, 10:25 PM
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Gary....I'm not sure what tire I'm going to go with, 285 or 315's. This probably won't be settled for sure until I take delivery of my truck and am able to measure the garage door clearance. Also, I'm not exactly clear on the issue of aftermarket wheels with 315's, does the decrease in wheel backspacing, coupled with the bigger 315 tire insure the need for 2" coil spring spacers or not?
It seems that putting 315's on the stock wheels works for some just fine, while others have rubbing issues.
Thank goodness for the Forums as they provide a ton of information as well as help pass the time while waiting for the truck. I was really hoping to find a 17x8 or 17x8.5 with very close to factory backspacing and just go with 285's to be safe. The more I read about how the 315's enhance the look of those huge fenderwells though, I'm really considering going with the taller tire (assuming I have the garage door clearance)
One of my customers manages a Discount Tire store between Dallas and Ft. Worth, I usually buy my tires and wheels from him. I'll keep your offer in mind, just too early for me to hone in on a decision.
It seems that putting 315's on the stock wheels works for some just fine, while others have rubbing issues.
Thank goodness for the Forums as they provide a ton of information as well as help pass the time while waiting for the truck. I was really hoping to find a 17x8 or 17x8.5 with very close to factory backspacing and just go with 285's to be safe. The more I read about how the 315's enhance the look of those huge fenderwells though, I'm really considering going with the taller tire (assuming I have the garage door clearance)
One of my customers manages a Discount Tire store between Dallas and Ft. Worth, I usually buy my tires and wheels from him. I'll keep your offer in mind, just too early for me to hone in on a decision.
02-05-2004, 12:44 AM
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WELD WHEELS
Sorry for leaving you hanging guys!
Read all about it here on TDR: FINALLY- Wheels for 3rd Gens
I called ARE today. The moron that answered the phone was all like "nope, don't got anything other than 4.5" backspace." Me: "So don't you get guys wanting wheels for their HD Rams?" "Nope. No one's asked for them." The guy didn't give a rat's behind about what I wanted.
I say HOUND THEM. . . (310) 604-1071
Read all about it here on TDR: FINALLY- Wheels for 3rd Gens
I called ARE today. The moron that answered the phone was all like "nope, don't got anything other than 4.5" backspace." Me: "So don't you get guys wanting wheels for their HD Rams?" "Nope. No one's asked for them." The guy didn't give a rat's behind about what I wanted.
I say HOUND THEM. . . (310) 604-1071
02-05-2004, 03:11 AM
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Originally posted by doug
11 pics coming your way. you get the good ones that have not been hacked down to 200k!
11 pics coming your way. you get the good ones that have not been hacked down to 200k!
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02-05-2004, 07:53 AM
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Vaughn, thanks for the link to the thread on TDR. There is some good news there, Weld is willing to listen to Kent @ TRex and manufacture a wheel with the correct backspacing.
I do have some trepidation regarding the 18 x 8.5 size however. I was expecting 17 x 8. Currently, who is manufacturing all terrain tires for 18's?
The other part that troubles me is the thread reports they are currently available but those people contacted at Weld (so far) don't know anything about it. Hopefully, the person whom Kent has been dealing with there will be revealed and this deal can get off the ground.
American Racing has no idea what is going on. They have yet to answer my e-mail (not holding my breath) and seem to have no interest in making a wheel of the proper fitment for Generation 3's.
I do have some trepidation regarding the 18 x 8.5 size however. I was expecting 17 x 8. Currently, who is manufacturing all terrain tires for 18's?
The other part that troubles me is the thread reports they are currently available but those people contacted at Weld (so far) don't know anything about it. Hopefully, the person whom Kent has been dealing with there will be revealed and this deal can get off the ground.
American Racing has no idea what is going on. They have yet to answer my e-mail (not holding my breath) and seem to have no interest in making a wheel of the proper fitment for Generation 3's.
02-06-2004, 01:54 PM
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Dont have the cash as of yet for new wheels but I still have been pondering the same issues.
I really like the look of 20's with and all terain tire. I even read somewhere BFG has a 285 20, BUT I havent been able to find any? Maybe I was wrong.
I will settle for a 17'' or 18'' if I have to but just like the look of 20's.
And I agree with most here the tire need to stay inside the fenders!!! So stock or close to stock backspacing is a must.
You know all these Escallades and Denalies have 20's and still inside the fenders ????? To bad they are 6 lug !!!!
I really like the look of 20's with and all terain tire. I even read somewhere BFG has a 285 20, BUT I havent been able to find any? Maybe I was wrong.
I will settle for a 17'' or 18'' if I have to but just like the look of 20's.
And I agree with most here the tire need to stay inside the fenders!!! So stock or close to stock backspacing is a must.
You know all these Escallades and Denalies have 20's and still inside the fenders ????? To bad they are 6 lug !!!!
02-06-2004, 01:58 PM
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Originally posted by TexasZach
Vaughn, thanks for the link to the thread on TDR. There is some good news there, Weld is willing to listen to Kent @ TRex and manufacture a wheel with the correct backspacing.
I do have some trepidation regarding the 18 x 8.5 size however. I was expecting 17 x 8. Currently, who is manufacturing all terrain tires for 18's?
The other part that troubles me is the thread reports they are currently available but those people contacted at Weld (so far) don't know anything about it. Hopefully, the person whom Kent has been dealing with there will be revealed and this deal can get off the ground.
American Racing has no idea what is going on. They have yet to answer my e-mail (not holding my breath) and seem to have no interest in making a wheel of the proper fitment for Generation 3's.
Vaughn, thanks for the link to the thread on TDR. There is some good news there, Weld is willing to listen to Kent @ TRex and manufacture a wheel with the correct backspacing.
I do have some trepidation regarding the 18 x 8.5 size however. I was expecting 17 x 8. Currently, who is manufacturing all terrain tires for 18's?
The other part that troubles me is the thread reports they are currently available but those people contacted at Weld (so far) don't know anything about it. Hopefully, the person whom Kent has been dealing with there will be revealed and this deal can get off the ground.
American Racing has no idea what is going on. They have yet to answer my e-mail (not holding my breath) and seem to have no interest in making a wheel of the proper fitment for Generation 3's.
there are more choices for 18 than 17 check toyo and nitto.
02-06-2004, 02:20 PM
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04Ram2500, a nice 20" is 305/55/20, it's still beefy enough to fill the wheelwells and not look sport truckish and it has a good weight rating (around 3100 lbs.). Weight Rating is what you really need to keep an eye on, I would suggest 3000 lbs Min.
For me I know EXACTLY what's going on my 2-wheel drive Ram 3500: Wheels between 18x8" & 18x9" with Terra Grappler 285/60/18s
Vaughn
For me I know EXACTLY what's going on my 2-wheel drive Ram 3500: Wheels between 18x8" & 18x9" with Terra Grappler 285/60/18s
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02-06-2004, 03:04 PM
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I see there's a decent selection of 305/50/20" tires available and most have a a weight rating over 3000 lbs. For instance Cooper has 2 tires in this size, Zeon XST and Discoverer H/T, at 3086 lb rating (that's a solid D rating).
http://www.coopertire.com/us/en/selectorSize2.asp
Falken's 305/50/20s are also 3086 lbs.
BFGoodrich has a 285/65/18 (notice 65 vs 60 aspect ratio) with a solid 3195 lbs rating. Their only 20" is huge, 325/60/20.
http://www.coopertire.com/us/en/selectorSize2.asp
Vaughn
http://www.coopertire.com/us/en/selectorSize2.asp
Falken's 305/50/20s are also 3086 lbs.
BFGoodrich has a 285/65/18 (notice 65 vs 60 aspect ratio) with a solid 3195 lbs rating. Their only 20" is huge, 325/60/20.
http://www.coopertire.com/us/en/selectorSize2.asp
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02-06-2004, 03:15 PM
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Having lived in the Bling bling capital of the World(Cal), the bigger wheels look killer but your mileage and stopping distance is are greatly reduced,,, and the ride is terrible,,,,,,,, i lave alwys liked to fill the fenderwells and the 317/17's do that. Mileage and braking suffered a little....
You have to remember every pound of wheel/tire is 6 lbs in the truck some of those 20 in. combo's are 30-40lbs heaver per wheel, 6x30x4 is a lot....
Calling Billet Spec. right now.................
You have to remember every pound of wheel/tire is 6 lbs in the truck some of those 20 in. combo's are 30-40lbs heaver per wheel, 6x30x4 is a lot....
Calling Billet Spec. right now.................
02-06-2004, 04:34 PM
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Ok, here I go and you can join in if you want, I have a friend who can get a discount on these wheels, he's in Dallas and has his own wheel/tire shop, NOT sure how much of a discount,,,,,,,,
Billet Spec <<<<<<<<<<click there
I like the Octane, I am going with the 17x9.5 6in backspace.
I am going to get the wheels hard anodized which will a medium dark gray colour. With chrome lugs and polished center cap would be very sharp....talked to the ano place and will be about 50 bucks a wheel to get done.
You can do what you wish with coating,painting or what ever.
If anyone would like to join in please say so and I will get it done, No profit for me at all,,,,,,,,,,,,,,................
Billet is a 2-3 weeks out to get done, you will go through my friend with all cash up front, can't do it any other way sorry.
I have talked to Billet, but haven't ordered anything yet.
Another one with comments or further ideas on a billet finish please jump in.
Chroming nope, 2 piece wheel rated at 3500 lbs.
I am a non BS person, I have 10000 posts at www.prowleronline.com and can be well trusted on deals like theses,,,,, and the Dallas dealer has a Prowler and does wheels for everyone there.
thank you
Gary
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I will give ya some time to think about it.
Have a safe weekend
Billet Spec <<<<<<<<<<click there
I like the Octane, I am going with the 17x9.5 6in backspace.
I am going to get the wheels hard anodized which will a medium dark gray colour. With chrome lugs and polished center cap would be very sharp....talked to the ano place and will be about 50 bucks a wheel to get done.
You can do what you wish with coating,painting or what ever.
If anyone would like to join in please say so and I will get it done, No profit for me at all,,,,,,,,,,,,,,................
Billet is a 2-3 weeks out to get done, you will go through my friend with all cash up front, can't do it any other way sorry.
I have talked to Billet, but haven't ordered anything yet.
Another one with comments or further ideas on a billet finish please jump in.
Chroming nope, 2 piece wheel rated at 3500 lbs.
I am a non BS person, I have 10000 posts at www.prowleronline.com and can be well trusted on deals like theses,,,,, and the Dallas dealer has a Prowler and does wheels for everyone there.
thank you
Gary
Noblesville, IN
I will give ya some time to think about it.
Have a safe weekend
02-06-2004, 05:47 PM
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Really like the Octane 8 also. So am I right by saying a 17 x 8 , 18 x 8 or 20 x 8 with 5.625 will only stick out 1/2'' futher than stock. If that is the case I would love a set. Now all I need is the $2000 for wheels and another G for tires.
aaahhhh the joy of owning nice stuff
Do keep us informed on price, you never know this is tax season.
Thanks guys
aaahhhh the joy of owning nice stuff
Do keep us informed on price, you never know this is tax season.
Thanks guys
02-06-2004, 05:53 PM
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Really like the Octane 8 also. So am I right by saying a 17 x 8 , 18 x 8 or 20 x 8 with 5.625 will only stick out 1/2'' futher than stock. If that is the case I would love a set. Now all I need is the $2000 for wheels and another G for tires.
aaahhhh the joy of owning nice stuff
Do keep us informed on price, you never know this is tax season.
Thanks guys
aaahhhh the joy of owning nice stuff
Do keep us informed on price, you never know this is tax season.
Thanks guys
02-07-2004, 07:23 AM
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Morning Guys,
I'm down in New Orleans for a few days, family death not party time. Can't tell you how much the Forum helps when needing some diversion and good fellowship.
Gary brings up a very good point regarding larger diameter wheels. Jesse James made that same statement a few months ago on Monster Garage. You need bigger brakes with some of the extremely tall wheels on the market. Wonder if Dodge upgrades the brake systems on the 1/2 tons with the factory equipped 20's.
BFG has 3 sizes of All Terrains in 20". Go the their web site and download the PDF chart SPECIFICATION chart, they show them there. Don't know if all three are currently in production or coming products, really doesn't indicate.
Until I get take delivery of the truck, I'm going to wait on any tire and wheel decisions, so I can check that all important (to me) garage clearance. Meanwhile, I'm going to keep gathering info. The perfect scenario would be for SOMEONE to realize that a 17 x 8, 6.25" backspaced wheel with a 122 mm center hole has a market out here.
I'd also like to know how to predetermine if 315's will rub on a truck before making that jump. Guess I could start another futile movement, a national campaign for taller garage doors.
I'm down in New Orleans for a few days, family death not party time. Can't tell you how much the Forum helps when needing some diversion and good fellowship.
Gary brings up a very good point regarding larger diameter wheels. Jesse James made that same statement a few months ago on Monster Garage. You need bigger brakes with some of the extremely tall wheels on the market. Wonder if Dodge upgrades the brake systems on the 1/2 tons with the factory equipped 20's.
BFG has 3 sizes of All Terrains in 20". Go the their web site and download the PDF chart SPECIFICATION chart, they show them there. Don't know if all three are currently in production or coming products, really doesn't indicate.
Until I get take delivery of the truck, I'm going to wait on any tire and wheel decisions, so I can check that all important (to me) garage clearance. Meanwhile, I'm going to keep gathering info. The perfect scenario would be for SOMEONE to realize that a 17 x 8, 6.25" backspaced wheel with a 122 mm center hole has a market out here.
I'd also like to know how to predetermine if 315's will rub on a truck before making that jump. Guess I could start another futile movement, a national campaign for taller garage doors.