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Old Jan 15, 2008 | 10:54 PM
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Air Dog FP 100 installation question

I am in the planning stages of the install. I have unpacked the unit and the quality seems quite good. I plan on just following the instructions to the letter for the install with the exception of doing the vent mod and plumbing the return into the old vent line.
Anyway as I read the instructions I have a couple of questions.
1st is they say seal all the NPT fittings with "diesel rated sealer". Does Teflon qualify, or is there a special pipe dope for diesel and where would I get it? 53 ****** mentioned it in his install thread, but doesn't say what it is exactly.

2nd is the instructions say to connect the "fuel line supplied with attached quick disconnect fitting" to the stock pick up on top of the tank. My kit didn't include anything that looks like it could connect to the stock pick up.

All of the fittings are -8 AN and NPT and there is one fitting to connect to the CP3, but no "quick disconnect" fittings.

Has anyone else experienced this, or am I mis-interpreting the instructions? Here is a pic of the page in question:


The only reason I went with the FP 100 was that it was supposed to hook directly to the stock pick up so I wouldn't have the worry of running out of fuel at 1/4 tank like some have experienced with their draw straw installations.
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Old Jan 16, 2008 | 05:04 AM
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Here you go, https://www.dieseltruckresource.com/...d.php?t=185809

The A/D 100 does NOT pull through the factory pick up,if you have an 06, you can buy a Jeep Liberty fuel basket to replace your in tank pump.

53Willy's has an EXCELLENT write up with detailed pics also for his A/D 150 install, just do a search for it.

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Old Jan 16, 2008 | 07:07 AM
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I used pipe dope from a home heating supply house. I can't remember the name but it was okay for home heating oil (aka diesel)
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Old Jan 16, 2008 | 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Hvytrkmech
Here you go, https://www.dieseltruckresource.com/...d.php?t=185809

The A/D 100 does NOT pull through the factory pick up,if you have an 06, you can buy a Jeep Liberty fuel basket to replace your in tank pump.

53Willy's has an EXCELLENT write up with detailed pics also for his A/D 150 install, just do a search for it.

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Hvytrkmech,
I copied this from one of your posts in that thread, nice install BTW:

I called Air Dog before I made the purchase through them, the individual I talked to stated that the 100 series could use the factory p/u by removing the fuel pump from the basket and replacing it with a hose, that sealed the deal for me, I did not want to drill a hole in my fuel tank. However when the pump arrived it had absolutely no provisions what so ever to replace the factory lift pump, or connect to the pick up assembly, but it did come with the draw straw provision, so I called customer service and essentially got off the phone with more questions than answers.

Did yours come with a draw straw? Mine did not. There is no bulkhead fitting or anything. I guess I could order a draw straw, but I didn't want to go that route.
My truck is an 04.5 and the factory pump is on the filter canister, so I want to use the factory pickup and bypass the stock filter canister/pump.
The other thing that gets me is the instructions tell me to hook the hose to the stock pickup, but doesn't give me the quick disconnect fitting to do it.
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Old Jan 16, 2008 | 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted by HOBrian
I used pipe dope from a home heating supply house. I can't remember the name but it was okay for home heating oil (aka diesel)
Thanks, I'll have to find some. I hope Lowes carries it.
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Old Jan 16, 2008 | 10:24 AM
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hey Dave I would look for a thread sealer thats says it's safe on diesel..lot of people use teflon...but diesel will eat teflon in no time...any parts store should carry a brand that is safe, just read the label.
you should have had a quick connector for your AD100....you need to call pureflow and have them send you one.
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Old Jan 16, 2008 | 12:13 PM
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Dave, you need to call A/D, ask for Toby and tell him you need the quick connect/disconnects, it will make your install a LOT easier. Toby also told me that the A/d 100 is supposed to run through the factory fuel filter housing then to the cp3, if you don't need the wif light or the fuel heater then you can go directly to the cp3. They shipped the old style wiring harness with the A/D 100 that I received (Thus the reason for going through the factory ff housing). Even pushing through the factory ff housing AND my GDP 2 micron ff I still had 18 psi at idle at the cp3, 16 psi at wot, however I have since removed the GDP 2 micron set up. All in all I am very pleased with Air Dogs product, the truck is smoother and quiter at idle, and the truck accelerates with less effort.

I really did not want to slug a hole in my tank, oh well, another bottle of the golden elixir gave me the courage to do it . If at all possible, I would recomend using the factory pick up.

Also the thread sealer that I pictured is impervious to diesel fuel and it is available at Home Depot in the hvac section.

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Old Jan 16, 2008 | 06:34 PM
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I just got off the phone with Toby, they are going to send me the quick disconnect fittings.

The other difference in my kit is I'll have to splice the trigger wire into the harness at the stock filter canister.
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Old Jan 16, 2008 | 06:46 PM
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I thought there was no wire splicing with the 04.5? Isn't the harness plug and play when the FP is still located on the filter housing? Anyhow, good luck with the install and keep us updated. I plan on going the same route.
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Old Jan 16, 2008 | 07:00 PM
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With the new harness it is plug and play, but with the older style you have to splice into the trigger wire, not a big deal at all.


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Old Jan 16, 2008 | 07:25 PM
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I would like to get the AD100, but I am a little worried. Whats up with poor instructions and not supplying all the right parts?
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Old Jan 16, 2008 | 08:01 PM
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Toby told me that the problem was that Dodge changed the pump locations and have since been retrofitting all the other trucks.
I got the wrong kit plain and simple. I made the mistake. My kit had the wire harness for the 05 and up, but I'll just wire it like 53 ****** did. No big deal.
The kit for 04.5 is just a plug and play at the stock lift pump connector.
My recommendation is to make sure whoever you order from understands exactly what truck you have and where the lift pump is. If you order just based on what year truck you have, you might get the wrong kit like I did.
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Old Jan 16, 2008 | 08:12 PM
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i'm not 100% sure but I think if you have EVER had a filter mounted lift pump then yes it should be plug and play...even if you have the intank conversion done...I would think you could unplug the extension harness that the dealer installed to make the intank connection and just plug the grey airdog harness connector in(all this would be right by the filter canister right)

the trucks that have intank pumps from the factory(05+) HAVE to cut and splice the trigger wire....it's pretty much the same way with the GDP kits too.
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Old Jan 16, 2008 | 09:08 PM
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Well I also didnt get the quick connect in my kit. So I guess I'll be making a phone call. I got the Wiring harnes P/N 5E-2-004 but couldnt tell ya if its the plug and play. I did tell them I had an 04.5. Glad I saw your post. I was worried enough about installing somthing like this. But this doesn't make me feel any better.
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Old Jan 16, 2008 | 09:26 PM
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I just installed the 100 on my 04.5 yesterday. Took me a sum total of 2.5 hours from start to finish. I spoke with Toby prior to ordering mine and had somewhat of a clear understanding of what to expect prior to receiving. Mine came with the quick disconnect and the harness was simple and straight forward. The only thing that I can imagine to be the reason for the poor parts shipments is that there are the two models for 04.5 and prior and 05 and later year models. I am very happy with mine and anyone that needs any pics of the install just pm me and I can snap a few and send them over.

As far as the teflon tape ordeal, I used regular teflon. My reasoning was that the diesel should never acually be in touch with the teflon, the NPT style threads used the taper and "crushing" of the threads to seal so therefore the teflon is used primarily as a lubricator to the threads. On top of all that we are only looking at 15-20 psi here. We (at my employer) use NPT and the JIC (rest of the fittings on the dog) on hydraulic components all day at 3000psi on hydraulic systems and we only use the loctite thread sealant (very conservatively I might add). In other words if the teflon tape is getting melted by the diesel then you have a leak, and that goes for whatever teflon your using.

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