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Dually or not too Dually ?

Old Apr 25, 2007 | 07:38 PM
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One of the main things you should consider is the pin weight of that 5er you are thinking about.With a very large 5er you will probably be over loaded on the rear axle of a single wheel 3500.

I pull a 5er that weighs about 15,000 with my dually and it does great,Don't know if i would do it with a single rear wheel.
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Old Apr 26, 2007 | 03:14 AM
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I see in your post you are talking about a mega cab also is that correct? If so you really have to watch what style of 5th wheel you get. Even with the different hitches they offer to set the hitch back, you are still pretty close to the cab. I have run with lots of guys that have been hauling for years and they have blown out there back window or crushed the cab because they got in a jam and the trailer pushed into the cab!

Just something to keep in mind as you look towards the future with you business. Unless you are going to stretch the frame and put an 8' bed behind that mega cab I would say go with just a regular quad!
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Old Apr 26, 2007 | 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Road Traveler
I see in your post you are talking about a mega cab also is that correct? If so you really have to watch what style of 5th wheel you get. Even with the different hitches they offer to set the hitch back, you are still pretty close to the cab. I have run with lots of guys that have been hauling for years and they have blown out there back window or crushed the cab because they got in a jam and the trailer pushed into the cab!

Just something to keep in mind as you look towards the future with you business. Unless you are going to stretch the frame and put an 8' bed behind that mega cab I would say go with just a regular quad!
Yes, thanks for that info.... I have been really considering that. The first time I read about that issue was on this forum. I like the look of the QC better but for us we would use the Mega and that really will out weigh even the 'looks' for us. I agree with you, as of just last night I was at the dealer and looking at just what you were talking about. Im thinking that it might be a few years before we move into a 5th that big. Also in a few years if/when we will probably have a custom trailer built (because of the business were in) and we might be able to take care of that issue that way. It will be a brain buster for sure when we do the paper work........ Thanks for your input !
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Old Apr 26, 2007 | 01:50 PM
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Pulling a trailer that size and weight, go with the dually. That is the reason I got rid of my 2500 4x4. I knew I should have bought the dually in the first place. Big difference in stability with the two extra wheels in the back.
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Old Apr 26, 2007 | 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by deezulsmoke
Pulling a trailer that size and weight, go with the dually. That is the reason I got rid of my 2500 4x4. I knew I should have bought the dually in the first place. Big difference in stability with the two extra wheels in the back.

Just so "im" clear.... Do you think it will help me with my 31 bumper pull now.... or do you think its alot better if/when we get the bigger 5th wheel ?

By the way, do you like the dually for every day driving ? Thanks !
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Old Apr 26, 2007 | 03:02 PM
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Personally, I would not get a mega cab if you need to tow. The cargo capacity is low because of the extra weight of the larger cab. The standard quad cab is big enough and you get more towing capacity. The only reason to get a mega cab is if you need the room for running around your crew to job sites. And for your load, I would get the dually quad cab.

My dually is a daily driver. I don't have any problems with parking, driving, etc. And yes, most people driving next to you will be intimidated with the wider stance of the dually.
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Old Apr 26, 2007 | 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by DodgeDemon
Just so "im" clear.... Do you think it will help me with my 31 bumper pull now.... or do you think its alot better if/when we get the bigger 5th wheel ?

By the way, do you like the dually for every day driving ? Thanks !
I use to pull a 41' foot car hauler that was bumper pull and the dually made a big difference in towing. It is a lot more solid than a single wheel. I know lots of guys that haul bikes and you get a lot of tongue weight more than you think hauling some bikes so the dually is a must.

As far as every day driving it really isnt that much different. Just have to watch some parking spots because they are so little. Not that you wont be able to park in them but your fenders will be so close to the line that you have to worry about others hitting them!
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Old Apr 26, 2007 | 05:46 PM
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It doesent matter if your pullin a tent trailer or a 42ft trailer a dually will simple perform better. With the mega cab clearance issue you can get hitch adapter to help with this.



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Old Apr 26, 2007 | 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by JD Dearden
It doesent matter if your pullin a tent trailer or a 42ft trailer a dually will simple perform better. With the mega cab clearance issue you can get hitch adapter to help with this.



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Even with the hitch adapter you still have to watch what style of trailer you are pulling. I have seen several that just wont sit back far enough and the guys have pushed they into the cab!
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Old Apr 26, 2007 | 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Road Traveler
Even with the hitch adapter you still have to watch what style of trailer you are pulling. I have seen several that just wont sit back far enough and the guys have pushed they into the cab!
Ya you need to buy the correct trailer the best thing I have seen i using a gooseneck setup insted of the 5th wheel and gettin one of those 5" or 6" exstension bar thing's.
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Old Apr 26, 2007 | 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by JD Dearden
Ya you need to buy the correct trailer the best thing I have seen i using a gooseneck setup insted of the 5th wheel and gettin one of those 5" or 6" exstension bar thing's.


Oh yeah very true! I know there are a few that just wont work most of the square cut auto transport trailers just wont really clear and a few of the bubble nose enclosed trailers.

It may be ok for dodge demon since he will just be pulling cargo in his own trailer so he can rig up to his trailer but to those trailer haulers there are just to many styles of trailers out there to be 100% safe with all of them

They were having this problem when for came out with the short bed dually a few years back.
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Old Apr 27, 2007 | 08:08 PM
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On your conventional hitch trailer, you should have about 10-15% of the trailers weight as hitch weight and a 5th is 20-25%. You NEED the payload capacity of the dually and maybe the quad cab instead of the mega. You need to figure out how much weight you pack on the truck loaded. If you are thinking of the Mega, go fill one with your crew and drive it on a certified scale and see how much is left out of the GVWR. If you get scaled and found to be over your tires ratings, you will get fined and/or sidelined. These trucks just don't have much payload with the diesel option unless it is a dually.
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Old Apr 28, 2007 | 12:12 PM
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I have an 06 dually and my brother has an 06 3500 single rear wheel. I pull a heavy bumper pull trailer, 15,000lbs with 4000lbs of tongue weight! and haul a 1750lbs cab over at the same time (yes I'm serious) I bought the heaviest hitch parts money can buy and even special made some parts . I also have the biggest air bags there are. I almost never remove this trailer from my truck as its a work /tow vehicle and thats all it gets used for. just to see what would happen we dropped the trailer and pulled my brothers single rear wheel truck under it . even with 80psi in his rear tires they looked like they were ready to roll off the rims. mine look perfect with 65 in them. also , I think I read back a few posts that you were curious about mileage? my truck has a 6 spd and my brothers has an auto. we went on a 600 mile trip both pulling trailers, I was pulling my usual 15k trailer with the cabover and he was pulling his 6000lb camp trailer with nothing on the back of the truck. we followed each other the whole way and upon returning home my over head read 14.5 and his read 14.1. my actual mileage was 13.2 and his was 12. if you are going to do that much towing you might consider a stick . I think the fact that you can control at all times what gear you are in and never let the motor lug will help your fuel mileage.
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Old Apr 28, 2007 | 12:55 PM
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Based on what you haul now and the fact that you may be hauling something heavier in the future I would go with the dually.
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Old Apr 28, 2007 | 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by supersonictoys
I have an 06 dually and my brother has an 06 3500 single rear wheel. I pull a heavy bumper pull trailer, 15,000lbs with 4000lbs of tongue weight! and haul a 1750lbs cab over at the same time (yes I'm serious) I bought the heaviest hitch parts money can buy and even special made some parts . I also have the biggest air bags there are. I almost never remove this trailer from my truck as its a work /tow vehicle and thats all it gets used for. just to see what would happen we dropped the trailer and pulled my brothers single rear wheel truck under it . even with 80psi in his rear tires they looked like they were ready to roll off the rims. mine look perfect with 65 in them. also , I think I read back a few posts that you were curious about mileage? my truck has a 6 spd and my brothers has an auto. we went on a 600 mile trip both pulling trailers, I was pulling my usual 15k trailer with the cabover and he was pulling his 6000lb camp trailer with nothing on the back of the truck. we followed each other the whole way and upon returning home my over head read 14.5 and his read 14.1. my actual mileage was 13.2 and his was 12. if you are going to do that much towing you might consider a stick . I think the fact that you can control at all times what gear you are in and never let the motor lug will help your fuel mileage.

WOW..... thanks for the GREAT info !! !
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