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Old Mar 18, 2008 | 11:15 AM
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It makes no sense why dodge would even build these trucks with diesels in them. Nobody is going to pay for the upcharge for the diesel and nobody is going to pay for a truck that has to take a fuel that is $1.00 plus more then regular. The auto companies are not thinking. just plain stupid if you ask me.
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Old Mar 18, 2008 | 11:23 AM
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can you imagine a soccer mom driving a cummins?? haha
Wait a minute, my wife drives one everyday? That's right, she's one in a million though For the rest of 'em, no I can't imagine.

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Old Mar 18, 2008 | 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by HOBrian
It makes no sense why dodge would even build these trucks with diesels in them. Nobody is going to pay for the upcharge for the diesel and nobody is going to pay for a truck that has to take a fuel that is $1.00 plus more then regular. The auto companies are not thinking. just plain stupid if you ask me.

Remember this information was all released sometime last year. At that time the economy was not like it is now or the last 2 months for that matter. I remember seeing that info for the first time and diesel was about the same as regular unleaded to plus unleaded prices. I even made the comment to the wife that we should buy one for her and she loved the idea. Not anymore. It will be interesting to see how far the diesel vehicles go with the current price of diesel.
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Old Mar 18, 2008 | 11:46 AM
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There is no diesel shortage anywhere in the world....the only reason diesel is more expensive is that it is needed....as in heating oil, transportation, and gensets for power companies. Gasoline is not needed....it is desired so it is less expensive. Around these parts they said if there was more demand the price would be more competitive. We are all being ripped off by greedy oil companies and commodity traders. No oil company in the world pays $110 a barrel...they wouldn't do any exploration if that was their cost of production...Cost of production/shipping is the same as it has always been. $16/barrell for Arab states, $20/barrell for Russians, and $22-60 depending on royalties for North America. ks
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Old Mar 18, 2008 | 12:12 PM
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why not make every thing a diesel so that the price / gallon will go out the flippin' roof and make it COMPLETELY impractical for those of us who actually beniffit from having one there I have said my piece!
Diesel is ALREADY thru the roof!! $4.29/gal. here in SE PA. And that's for the ripoff winter blend that ya can't get any mileage out of!!
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Old Mar 18, 2008 | 08:21 PM
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A typical diesel is a novelty (no monitary justification)

Due to the fact that diesel fuel is being sold to europe because of the falling dollar. If diesel fuel continues to rise in price, the diesel engine will be made noncompitative. Except for those who drive over 30000 miles a year with maximum gvw, the diesel engine has been made noncompitative, for the "average light duty diesel user".

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Old Mar 18, 2008 | 11:30 PM
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Originally Posted by HOBrian
It makes no sense why dodge would even build these trucks with diesels in them. Nobody is going to pay for the upcharge for the diesel and nobody is going to pay for a truck that has to take a fuel that is $1.00 plus more then regular. The auto companies are not thinking. just plain stupid if you ask me.

I would buy one and a Cummins Durango too! I'll never get a gas car, truck or SUV if I can help it.
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Old Mar 18, 2008 | 11:40 PM
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There is no diesel shortage anywhere in the world....the only reason diesel is more expensive is that it is needed....as in heating oil, transportation, and gensets for power companies.

Acualy the reason is simple the oil companies charge more for diesel because the main use for it is trucking and they (the truckers) just past the cost on to the next person (I'm talking about the class 5 and up). A friend told me that it costs about 0.68 to make diesel plus the cost of the barrel and that makes it 2.68 (or close to it) for diesel. BTW thats if the oil companies really pay $110.52 a barrel.
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Old Mar 18, 2008 | 11:55 PM
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wake up boys , the future is here...the only costs that seem to go down is on consumer electronics. On the bright side you won't have to look far for a diesel nozzel at the fueling station!
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Old Mar 19, 2008 | 05:23 AM
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In my oppinion you can attribute all this to the tree huggers. 2010 emission engines burn twice as much fuel as the previous design in an effort to lower emmissions? Also if we would of been drilling our own oil stateside, making more refineries and power plants our market would not be controlled by the middle east who hate us to begin with. my$.02
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Old Mar 19, 2008 | 09:57 AM
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Mayby with diesel being$4.00+/gallon will detour this from going forward.

I am starting to question me decision to buy another diesel
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Old Mar 19, 2008 | 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by wiz1
In my oppinion you can attribute all this to the tree huggers. 2010 emission engines burn twice as much fuel as the previous design in an effort to lower emmissions? Also if we would of been drilling our own oil stateside, making more refineries and power plants our market would not be controlled by the middle east who hate us to begin with. my$.02
I think this is what some of the folks at EPA are looking at right now.
I really doubt we will see a smaller diesel that gets 20% better mileage then a gasser with the way they are choked now. I remember all the hype about the 6.7 being better on fuel...it sure is better at drinking it. I think I would prefer to save our fossil fuels over the way Cummins and other engine companies are choosing to 'save the planet' with these emissions band-aids.

Diesel is not looking as good as it once was.

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Old Mar 19, 2008 | 02:12 PM
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I really doubt we will see a smaller diesel that gets 20% better mileage then a gasser with the way they are choked now. I remember all the hype about the 6.7 being better on fuel...it sure is better at drinking it. Diesel is not looking as good as it once was.Scotty
I believe the 20% better mileage (BS) savings would wind up as a wash with the increased maintenence costs for diesels - special fuel, special oil & higher priced replacements parts.
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Old Mar 19, 2008 | 03:41 PM
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When my father-in-law was still in the oil business, he asked a Coastal Refinery manager why diesel was starting to cost more than gas (this was in the late '90s) when crude passes thru diesel on its way to becoming gas. He said the demand for gas is much larger than for diesel so it 'cost' the refinery to give up the capacity to refine for diesel. BTW, $3.95 a gal for #1 in South Central Kansas. And, yes, I still want a CTD.
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Old Mar 20, 2008 | 12:36 AM
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Their are a lot of people here on DTR that never tow heavy loads or keep their trucks for more then 50,000 miles. But they like how you can easily make them faster then a Mustang, and they just like having a Diesel. Well I think a 5.6 Cummins in a Ram 1500 with a few mods is going to blow the doors off the heavier 25-3500 trucks. Plus get better milage because they are draging less weight. I think a lot of people will trade for the 1500.
Just think when the 1500 diesel comes out mabey the 25-3500 will get bigger REBATES
More Diesel can easily be made by Hydro cracking. This process will increase the amount of diesel per barrel of oil.
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