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Old Sep 16, 2008 | 08:13 PM
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If several of you have had the same problem with little/no concern from Dodge, maybe try the NHTSA. That may get someone at Dodge to do something about it before someone gets killed or injured. The scary thing is, yes, you could put it in neutral, turn off the ignition, etc.. but my wife, who occasionally drives my truck, would NEVER think of those things. She wouldn't know what to do and would be dead as a result.
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Old Sep 16, 2008 | 09:00 PM
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Did your cruise light go out when you turned it off with the button on the steering wheel? If it did it is not an electrical issue with the cruise. I was either an APPS issue or you have an injector that is sticking/leaking.
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Old Sep 16, 2008 | 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted by stroker101
glad to hear your ok and the other people who share the road are as well.

all i see is the incident being talked about. how, what and when it happens again.

has the truck been to the dealer to be worked on? if so did they perform the reprogram? did this rectify the problem? and if the truck hasn't been serviced, why not?
The truck has not been to the dealer recently, there was a recall on the engine controller at one point and the update was taken care of in the past. There's a sticker under the hood indicating this.

I dropped the truck off at the local Dodge dealer today and spent some time talking to the service manager. We talked about the previous update, checked into TSB's, etc. They're clueless at this point and won't even be able to look at the truck for a week or so. So it will be sometime before I have any real information.


Originally Posted by CTDinMT
If several of you have had the same problem with little/no concern from Dodge, maybe try the NHTSA. That may get someone at Dodge to do something about it before someone gets killed or injured. The scary thing is, yes, you could put it in neutral, turn off the ignition, etc.. but my wife, who occasionally drives my truck, would NEVER think of those things. She wouldn't know what to do and would be dead as a result.
That's what the service manager said, the dealership was at least sympathetic, unlike Chrysler customer service. I'm curious, does this problem have to apply to one specific make & model for the NHTSA to look into it?

I fully agree with your comments about your wife, I drive all over the country in a commuter car, my wife is usually the one driving the truck. If we're towing, then I drive but it's 'her' truck. She probably drives it 80% of the time so we were lucky that it happened to me. I also think she would have ended up wrecking the truck and possibly killing or injuring herself and others. Scary when you think about it.
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Old Sep 16, 2008 | 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Spooler
Did your cruise light go out when you turned it off with the button on the steering wheel? If it did it is not an electrical issue with the cruise. I was either an APPS issue or you have an injector that is sticking/leaking.
Yes, cruise light went off. I don't know that one injector sticking/leaking would allow the engine to run at full throttle. Sounds more like an APPS problem to me.
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Old Sep 17, 2008 | 10:13 AM
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Have the dealership do a leakdown test on every injector. If it doesen't look out of whack then have the Apps replaced. No oil missing? Also have all cabling from the throttle inspected. And last but not least, check your floor mats to make sure they didn't hang the throttle up.
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Old Sep 17, 2008 | 07:18 PM
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The more I read this the more I think to myself "what was this guy thinking". You were on a fout-lane road, two each way, I would have engaged the four-way flasher, shoved the clutch in, pulled to the right as far as I could, braked to a fast stop, and shut the key off. To heck with the engine, my life is worth a lot more then any engine. This is just my opinion.
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Old Sep 17, 2008 | 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by CamperAndy
There is NO PARK on a manual transmission but it is piece of mind for us auto drivers.
On a manual it will not turn back to the lock position either without pushing the button behind the key switch, so the key should be able to be cycled on and off while driving and not lock the steering. Just have to remember to push the clutch after shutting off or it won't start back up!....
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Old Sep 17, 2008 | 08:46 PM
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Should of, Could of, and Would of done is a whole lot different when it happens to you. It happened to me so I know exactly how he felt. Freaked me out at first, then I thought about it quickly and tried a few things. Heck I was running 85MPH before I figured out what to do. The next time I just chuckled, call is a POS, and hit the off button on the cruise. It happened to me 8 times easily before I got it fixed. That was over 50,000 miles ago and still I have had no repeat issues.


He didn't wreck or blow the motor so in my book, ALL is well.
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Old Sep 17, 2008 | 09:16 PM
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[QUOTE=Spooler;2213537]Should of, Could of, and Would of done is a whole lot different when it happens to you. It happened to me so I know exactly how he felt. Freaked me out at first, then I thought about it quickly and tried a few things. Heck I was running 85MPH before I figured out what to do. The next time I just chuckled, call is a POS, and hit the off button on the cruise. It happened to me 8 times easily before I got it fixed. That was over 50,000 miles ago and still I have had no repeat issues.


I got a little freaked the first time it happened to me.
Now I'm always ready to hit the button on the wheel
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Old Sep 17, 2008 | 11:35 PM
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Originally Posted by OOPS
The more I read this the more I think to myself "what was this guy thinking". You were on a fout-lane road, two each way, I would have engaged the four-way flasher, shoved the clutch in, pulled to the right as far as I could, braked to a fast stop, and shut the key off. To heck with the engine, my life is worth a lot more then any engine. This is just my opinion.

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Should of, Could of, and Would of done is a whole lot different when it happens to you. It happened to me so I know exactly how he felt. Freaked me out at first, then I thought about it quickly and tried a few things. Heck I was running 85MPH before I figured out what to do. The next time I just chuckled, call is a POS, and hit the off button on the cruise. It happened to me 8 times easily before I got it fixed. That was over 50,000 miles ago and still I have had no repeat issues.


He didn't wreck or blow the motor so in my book, ALL is well.


Spooler hit it the nail on the head... you've had time to read the post, take it in and think about how you'd react. I didn't have any time to ponder the situation. Before I realized something was wrong I was hauling ***, dodging a semi and trying to make the corners in the canyon. All I had time to do was react to the situation best I could. You may have done something different, I did what I did. I'm fine, truck is fine, people are around the truck are fine, why does it really matter at this point?

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Old Sep 18, 2008 | 04:17 PM
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There is a TSB out on this call your dealer to check on this. Tell him there is a TSB out on this.NHTSA campaign ID: 03v033000 you can call this 1-800-853-1403 about 19500 trucks affected---GOOD LUCK
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Old Sep 19, 2008 | 07:11 PM
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Heard back from the dealer just now, they re-applied an update to the ECU that had already been done once before.

The tech at the dealership was saying the throttle staying opened wasn't from the cruise control. He thinks it was the injectors staying open, but when he did a pressure test, all injectors passed. The tech mentioned the ECU may have triggered the injectors to stay opened. I'm wondering if the update that was applied to the ECU the first time didn't take or was faulty.

They test drove the truck after they reapplied the ECU update, with the cruise on for about 70 miles and nothing happened. I'm going to pick the truck up next week. After all this I think I'll be better prepared if it ever happens again.
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